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More Vaccinated People Are Dying of COVID in England Than Unvaccinated – Here’s Why

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by JonC, Sep 26, 2021.

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  1. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    because that is not the only instance. There's hundreds of stories like this.
     
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    The risk of myocarditis with covid is 0.146%

    The risk of myocarditis with the vaccines is 0.00126%

    Association Between COVID-19 and Myocarditis...
     
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    So, if they are over 67% vaxed and vexes cut mortality by over 90% (supposedly), how are more vaxed people dying than unvaxed?
    Are the vaxed getting Covid 800% more often than the unvaxed? That is what it would take to reconcile the numbers.
     
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    The numbers are not correct.

    The UK study showed 640 vaccinated covid deaths and over 50,000 unvaccinated deaths.

    Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics
     
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    18% of unvaccinated covid patients in the UK suffered myocardial injury.

    .00043% of vaccinated residents suffered myocardial injury.

    (Figures from June to Aug 2021)

    Welcome to GOV.UK
     
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    Again are those numbers from the start of the pandemic? If so, it's not valid.
     
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    And there are hundreds of stories of long-term smokers living to 90.

    What matters are statistically significant populations. And the data, responsibly interpreted by medical professionals not my "buddy from the diner", show that the vaccines are safe.
     
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    So? How, exactly, does this challenge the assertion that an unvaccinated person is more than 11 times more likely to die if they get covid?

    The answer, of course, is that it is entirely immaterial.
     
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    I get it. You are saying these rates apply to people hospitalized with covid, not the overall population.

    That is consistent with other studies I’ve seen.

    peace to you
     
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    Why are they not valid?
     
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    I strongly suspect you continue to make comments about a subject on which you are willfully ignorant, therefore I’ll not waste time citing sources you will ignore.

    peace to you
     
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    Well, that is because you guys cherry-pick and cite sources that are, frankly, loony.

    Some examples:

    Posters have cited from The Gateway Pundit. What is the story with them? Well......

    The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.[28]

    And you guys have cited "America's Frontline Doctors". Well, the founder of this august organization was arrested for participating in the Jan 6 insurrection.

    And there are many more examples I can cite.
     
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    Code for: I have been caught making a deeply misleading claim.
     
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    I’m not surprised you cannot see the significance of 600,000 deaths prior to the vaccine being available, and 90% percent of those being elderly with preexisting conditions.

    Young, healthy people are being coerced into taking a vaccine based on misleading stats that suggest they are at a high risk of dying from this virus, which simply isn’t true. Children are practically immune, with rare exceptions, yet they are being forced to wear masks and are being groomed for a vaccine that could very well be harmful to them.

    You are ignorant of facts. You are doomed doomed to regurgitate the propaganda of the radical, lying left.

    peace to you
     
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    Yes. Sorry for the confusion (I should have clarified).
     
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    Evasive - explain to us exactly what the problem is.
     
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    What misleading stats? Please be specific.
     
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    Uh....no. It is a real link. I do not know why it is not working for you.
     
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    The link says more vaccinated are dying than unvaxed.
    Then you say "The numbers are not correct.
    The UK study showed 640 vaccinated covid deaths and over 50,000 unvaccinated deaths."
     
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