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mRNA vaccine question.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by 37818, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. Revmitchell

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    not remotely close
     
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    Sure it is. @Wingman68 says the vaccine should be rejected. Why? Because the FDA has pulled some medications from the market.
     
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    It should be rejected because it’s maiming & killing people, & the recent ‘approval’ was just a shake & bake, it has NOT passed clinical trials. Newsome in Cali just mandated K-12 public & private. Last I knew it hadn’t even got the shake & bake approval for under 12. These people are insanely driving this bus right off a cliff.
     
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    But it isn't maiming and killing people. It has passed clinical trials.

    There have been rare instances of allergic reactions, some resulting in death, but this was expected. It is not the vaccine but people who are allergic to a component.

    Peanut butter is also not maiming and killing people.

    The risk of dying from the virus is 2% to .05% (depending on heakth/ age).

    But the risk of having a serious side-efect after being vaccinated regardless of the side-effect being related to a vaccine is less than .0027% ... and this is considering all 3 vaccines combined!

    Any medical treatment has risks. Here the risk of the vacvine is almost nonexistent in comparison to dying of the virus.
     
  6. JonC

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    I watched some of it. I also checked out the doc.

    In July 2017, Robert O. Young, who has marketed himself as “Robert O. Young, M.S., D.Sc., Ph.D.,”was sentenced to prison for practicing medicine without a license.

    He attended the University of Utah—where he studied biology and business in the early 70’s.

    He took a break to spend 2 years in London as a Mormon missionary (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints).

    In 1993, Dr. Young received a MS in nutrition from the American College in Birmingham, Alabama.

    In 1997, Dr. Young received a Ph.D. from Clayton College of Natural Health. He later received an doctorate degree in naturopathy (alternative medicine) from Clayton College.



    People need to decide who they trust with their health.

    He is definitely not my pick. I prefer a Christian. I also do not trust alternate and new age medicine.

    But for those of you who do, go for it.




    A Critical Look at "Dr." Robert Young's Theories and Credentials | Quackwatch
     
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  7. Wingman68

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    Tell me about which Christian you trust with your health decisions.
    Is an osteopath new age? Because after this, they would be the only ones I would consider seeing, going forward.
    Dr.Yeadon is retired, & has put his good name out there to be trashed, he knows this, yet he still spoke his truth. His truth has much knowledge. Pretty sure you’d trash him too. Class act.

    According to what you claim, you would have voted for Romney, a Mormon. Prez, OK, not Doc?
     
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  8. JonC

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    My Christian trust? Sure, I am always open to talking about my faith.

    When I was in service I had a hernia repair. I was at peace having to have surgery because I know God is in control and God gave men the ability to perform surgeries.

    I am thankful to God for giving scientists the ability to replace heart valves, to treat babies that would have otherwise died, and to come up with vaccines that are proven effective against covid.

    But insofar as Christians I trust with my health decisions? I do not burden people to make my decisions for me.

    I said I prefer to consult a Christian. But I would rather go to a great doctor who is not a Christian than a bad doctor who is. God uses men regardless of their faith.
     
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    I'm about to.

    Changed my mind after reading JonC's post.
     
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    Sometimes a compound called polyethylene glycol (PEG) can be used to help keep lipid nanoparticles stable, as they are used in the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. However, there is no graphene oxide in the PEG-lipid nanoparticles

    No WHO authorized vaccines produced by Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, CanSino, Sinovac, Sputnik V, or Janssen contain graphene oxide. The Novavax COVID-19 vaccine has not yet published a list of its ingredients in a peer-reviewed or open access publication.

    https://health-desk.org/articles/how-do-we-know-graphene-oxide-isn-t-used-in-covid-19-mrna-vaccines
     
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    Wow, no WHO authorized shot would EVER have secret ingredients, ok. What is there as determined by actual analysis, is not there. The world according to the trusted WHO.
     
  14. JonC

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    Wait a minute....

    I give Youngs bio:

    In July 2017, Robert O. Young, who has marketed himself as “Robert O. Young, M.S., D.Sc., Ph.D.,”was sentenced to prison for practicing medicine without a license.


    He took a break to spend 2 years in London as a Mormon missionary

    He has a degree in nutrition from AL and doctorate degree in naturopathy (alternative medicine).

    All you take out of that is I don't trust him as an expert because he is Mormon???!!!! :Rolleyes

    The guy was convicted of practicing medicine without a license. He studied nutrition. He is a doctor of alternative medicine.

    He is what YOU guys consider an expert on the virus and vaccine. That is fine, that is your choice. But I ain't drinking his kool-aid.
     
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    No. They would not. The vacvines are analyzed and studied. There are actual analysis (one of you anti-vaxers even posted it, inadvertently).

    The fact is we know exactly what is in vaccines. And they are analyzed. And yes....the earth is really spherical. We did land on the moon.
     
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