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This all sounds fine and good; however, what brought education to that part of the world for the working classes? It was an influence of Christianty.

What was is that brought medical attention to the poor classes of that corner of the world? It was the influence of Christianity.

What was it that caused orphanages to be contructed and started to move women out of the bondage of servitude and ownership of men? It was the influence of Christianty.

What is that brings these people from all these other places so that they may live pretty much as they desire? It is the influence of Christianity.

People are contant to come here because of the influences of Christianity and not because we live like that rest of the Moslem world. And I will tell you something. Moslems only believe what they believe when it is convenant for them to apply it and yet will attack Christians and Jews and demand what they themselves don't understand to suit themselves. GOD has nothing to do with their logic...

 

Tam,

What makes you think that the email you got is really a true story?

This is what Snopes has to say about it:

 

The fruit of Islam is seen in the headlines every day-it is a false religion, a tool of Satan, and his 'fruit' wreaks destruction, poverty, war, terrorism and persecution. This religion has the spirit of antichrist.

But in the west, the fruit of secularism is also seen every day. Destruction, poverty, violence, licentiousness, greed, materialism, abortion, etc. This 'religion' too has the spirit of antichrist.

Both need Jesus.

 

Johnv:
No disrespect intended about the snipped part. Just wanted to tell you you speak like a Primitive Baptist in the unsnipped part.

 

Somewhere in this board, there is a post by somebody who gave an accurate view of Islam, whether fundamental, militant, or moderate.
They want all the world, from the North Pole to the South Pole, east to west hemispheres, to be converted to Islam, and Shariah law enforced.

Somewhere also on this board, I posted that I don't trust Muslims, ever, at anytime, especially collectively.

 

Islam is the only religion in the world to take another major religions "Bible" and "edit it to please its founder".

Islam proclaims the kind of holy war that you see going on today. IT is no "Accident" that ALL major demonstrations in ALL major Islamic countries are ALWAYS in favor of those we call "terrorists".

It is no "Accident" that ALL moderate Islamic governments "claim" to be worried about the general public in their country NOT backing them up if they "admit" to sane, balanced, criticism of terrorist actions or brutal Islamic dictators.

It is "no accident" that NO Islamic cleric has come forward strongly opposing the groups, leaders, teaching, actions of Islamic terrorists.

"Imagine if you will" that a Christian leader in some country declared that the Bible "mandated the holy killing of all " of some religion, or group (you know like in the dark ages and the crusades centuries ago) - What an uprising you would see among Christian leaders around the globe. When condemnation. What separation.

You see "nothing like that" in the Islamic leadership found in western "free" democracies. (But you do see MORE of it in the west than in ANY country CONTROLLED by Islam).

They have utterly disgraced themselves on a multi-national world-wide basis. The Palestinian, Iraqi citizens etc... cheering for the death of innocents on Sept 11, the awful sequence of lies told by Islamic media ...

How can they "live with themselves" after promoting the lies about the war's progress and then forced to "admit" that the war did NOT go as they had reported it.

In Christ,

Bob

 

I have a little book at home with representative scriptures from all the major faiths of the world. In reading the scriptures of other religions, many of them do express some good ideas. The Muslim Koran is not up to the spiritual level of even the other world relition scriptures - it is harsher and more judgemental, in my subjective opinion.

 

Actually, Christians are commanded to judge salvation. YOu pass a judgment on that when you admit them to church membership or discipline them from it. You pass that judgment on the basis of Scriptural commands and scriptural evidence. The fact that Muslims are faithful and positive members of society is really quite irrelevant in terms of their standing with God. We cannot know for sure about everyone. But we can know for sure that those who do not confess Jesus Christ as the Son of God and their personal Savior are not saved. Muslim's fit into that category. Like Jews, they do not accept Jesus as the Messiah and God; they are not saved until they do.

Which account are you reading? In Acts 17, Paul did not allow for this generic view. He condemned their view of God and called on them to repent. Paul did in fact chastise them for worshipping false gods, and called on them to worship the true God.

This is true, but salvation must always precede worship. The unsaved cannot worship God.

Muslims may be among the largest religions in the world, but they are worshipping a false god and are unsaved. They may be good and faithful members of soceity, but they need to to be saved by Jesus Christ. As a Christian, our response should be the same to them as to every other false religion: They need to be confronted with teh claims of Jesus Christ and called to faith and repentance in him. We should be building relationships with people like this so we have the opportunity to share our faith with them.

 

Don't you find it scary working with some one who wants world domination?

 

Its vert simple...Islam is another one of those man-made religions therefore it is a cult. They believe in Jesus as one of their prophets but he did not die on the cross. He was taken down before he died and another took his place. Their are many good people that are Muslims but Hell will be full of good people that did not accept Jesus as the Son of God!

 

And it will be crowded with people who did accept Jesus as the Son of God.

 

Actually, it was placed in order of surah length. the first one is the longest, and the last one is the shortest. This is apparent if you compare the beginning of the book with the end. Don't know why it was done this way. Perhaps to cover up the obvious change in doctrines that occurred as Muhammad was rejected by Jews and Christians, and then went from acceptance of them to condemnation of them?

Much is made of this supposed "moon god", but the last quote is the real reason why Allah would be false. Others are right that the word is simply the generic term for the Most High. The Arabs before Muhammad had become pagan and had a pantheon of gods, including the moon god, and hundreds of others, many of which were actually attributes of the true God (e.g. "Rahman, the merciful"; "Rahim, the compassionate", etc. These words are even same as the Hebrew in the Bible). So Muhammad attempted to restore worship of the one true God of the Hebrew-Christian scriptures. But because he misunderstood concepts like the Trinity, (in part, from corruptions in the Church, such as its rampant Mariolatry, and assuming it was like pagan religions where the gods "begat" children), he rejected it, and held Christ as Messiah and prophet, but not the Son of God. So in that way he concocted a new false god. To be fair, we would have to say the same thing about the Jews, but many Christians shy away from that.