Good one, Brandon!! :laugh:
skypair
"... must worship Him in ... truth."
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by skypair, Apr 28, 2007.
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"God so loved the WORLD..." all you other mockers. We don't go out and witness because we don't know who the elect are -- if they are elect, God will get them to heaven anyway. We go to all the world because God loves the whole world and "is not willing that any should perish but that ALL [and not just the Calvie "all" either!] should come to repentance."
This is the TRUE image of God. If we worship a God who loves only the "elect," then we do NOT worship Him in truth. Can I have an "AMEN!?" Anyone God ever hated did something to deserve it!
Did God EVER create anything that wasn't innately GOOD?? That He didn't love? That didn't come to corruption on account of this world?? Y'all need to "recalibrate" your "scopes" before you are going to hunt for good theology! :laugh: God loves ALL His creation!
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On second thought sky, forget about the dinner invitation, i'm sure neither of us would enjoy it. This is truly a sorry thread! :tear:
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Do you believe that if you mischaracterize God you are actually worshipping Him?? Think about it and please try to be objective.
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As for Gods love. I believe Gods love is an action. The action of dieing of the Cross. I believe that Jesus died for all men, and if we choose to place our trust in Him for salvation, His His reward will be substituted for our punishment.
I hope that does not make me like the Mormons, because I have already been one of those. :laugh: I did not like it the first time. -
Though Sky does it here toward the Cals
We see Rippon doing the same thing toward the Non-Cals (mainline Christianity) in another thread.
Should we all be equated with Catholics also because we believe Mary was the mother of Jesus?
A shallow and quick glance can see what one desires to see, but a deeper look reveals the imagination was incorrect. -
My point was merely beware the isms. Er... and worship God in TRUTH!
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Incidentally, I must put right another false impression I seem to have given, when I wrote:
But "Calvies" witness and preach the gospel, because they, like everyone else, have no knowledge of who the "all that the Father gives to Jesus" are, and anyway they seek as you do to fulfil the Great Comission.
I certainly didn't mean that "Calvies" have as their reason for preaching the gospel the fact that they don't know who the elect are. Rather, I was answering your earlier post in which you had said that Calvies want to keep God's love to themselves.
12 ¶ Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering;
13 bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.
We know from the beginning of the epistle that those words are addressed to "the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are in Colosse", in other words, to Christian believers. So I cannot say "Amen" that God loves the elect and non-elect.
13 As it is written, "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated."
14 ¶ What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not!
15 For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion."
16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.
That wasn't because Jacob did good things and Esau evil, for in verse 11, Paul wrote:
11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls).
The gospel is surely, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." I have heard plenty of modernist "theologians" say that all this talk of sin and needing to be saved is just picture-language. But don't all true Christians, Calvinist and non-Calvinist alike, believe those gracious words to the Philippian gaoler in Acts 16.31? -
12 ¶ Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering;[/quote] Yeah, but what about this "Love thy neighbor as thyself?" Are you saying only if he/she is "elect?"
13 bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.
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My wifes parents disowned her, though later they just decided to treat us bad instead. My mother-in-law told us that since our children were not her eternal family she did not want anything to do with them. Again she latter just decided to not pay as much attention to them as her other grandchildren.
Would that be Mountain Side Church in Sandy, Utah. I have heard good things about this church. It is growing fast. -
DeeJay,
I don't recall. That was 1980 when I worked for Braniff and laid over in SLC. I went through the LDS presentation and tried to convert an elder there. Tears came to his eyes when I told him that God didn't want his obedience if He couldn't have his heart. Older man, too, but so immune to the Spirit. :praying:
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I am going to use that quote. :thumbs:
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