The problem I have is this...I can't decide on a church. If I continue to go to the one I grew up in, I doubt she'll ever come with me. The church is, to a point, legalistic. The pastor believes in the KJVO, and while, in my opinion, it is the best, it isn't the only (contrary to what I've stated previously). Anyway, the pastor believes things that just put my wife off, not that she's been recently, but he does meet the stereotype of Bible-thumper (which for me isn't a problem, but for an unsaved person?).
I guess my question is this, should I try to find a church that's more relevant, or should I stick with the Independent King James Bible-believing church?
My wife is unsaved and I don't know what to do.
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Christ Bearer, Dec 14, 2005.
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I personally know a couple who a few years ago was in this exact situation. The wife was convinced that the preacher was nothing more than a wacko "Bible-thumper", and she didn't want to come.
The church began praying for her, her husband stopped preaching AT her, and she started coming to church with her hubby because she wanted to retain her family's unity. (Im not implying that you are preaching at her, btw, that was just their situation.)
For a year or so she was on the outskirts. But she found out that the preacher was not JUST a Bible-thumper. He really loves the people, and just wants whats best, and is an excellent preacher.
Let me tell you, she is now a pillar of our church. She is the math teacher at our Christian school, she teaches a Sunday School class, and she is loved by one and all. She is one of the ladies also often asked to speak at our yearly Ladies Retreat. Her husband is now one of our assistant pastors, as well.
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Christ Bearer, you have two problems:
1 - Your wife is unsaved. I fail to see why you married an unsaved person. You can't "fix" that problem by workin oon her. You must accept that she's unsaved, and live your ife with that knowlege. It ridiculous marry someone and try to change them after the fact. This is a problem you cannot change. Accept that she is unsaved and move on. If you cannot accept this fact, and accept her for what she is, it will ruin your marriage, and the blame will be upon you for marrying an unsaved person in the first place. Sorry to be so harsh, but I speak out of concern and caring, not out of fingerwagging.
2 - You attend a church that is not consudive to your family. This is a problem easily solved. You should leave, and do so immediately. You should then find a church that the both of you are comfportable attending and supporting, and that both of you agree on. -
I agree with bapmom - and never compromise! I will help you pray for your dear wife.
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but Johnv,
we can't take advice on which church to attend from the unsaved person. And based on what he's written before, I think he has become saved after he was already married....... -
My husband would probably be regarded in the same manner as your pastor. He is KJVO and very conservative. He does not stand for compromise. But one thing he always makes a point of is that lost people do not need our standards...they need our Saviour. That is what your wife should encounter if she decided to go with you to church. It should not be a situation where people look down on her until she is saved and she should be welcomed with open arms. If your pastor preaches Bible then His word will not return void. I have seen the case where some pastors like to be more opinionated in the pulpit instead of giving Bible truth and this will certainly turn off an unbeliever.
One thing I would certainly do is to ask for special prayer from your pastor and your church family that your wife would come to church with you and that her heart and mind would be receptive to the Holy Spirit and to God's Word.
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Find a church where she can hear the gospel without the nonessential hurdles.
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As for your suggestion about finding a church that we can both agree on, right now, that isn't going to happen, as she doen't really agree with church at all. I just know from what she says (and from what I know about her) that if she ever did choose to start coming to a church with me, it wouldn't be this one. So should I stay at the church I currently attend in hopes that she will one day ask me to go to a different one she would feel better about so she would go...or should I go ahead and find a church that I think she would be more likely to go to if she ever came around. Keep in mind that right now, she won't agree to any church. -
i also agree with bapmom. and will be praying for you Christ Bearer, and will get other people to pray as well.
God will change her heart. all you can do is encourage her and give her little bits of the gospel everyday. never give up. -
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ChristBearer,
but your limited human knowledge is what is speaking right now, when you say "she'd never come to this one." Im telling you, with God even this is possible!
The couple I told you about? My own husband said he thought she'd NEVER come to church. HER husband used to say exactly the same thing you just posted about her. I mean exactly. No one ever thought she'd be willing to come. Look at her now!
Im just trying to give you some hope. Especially since she refuses to go ANYwhere, why should you stop going there if thats where God wants you?
She's not saved yet, unfortunately. You keep praying for her, and don't shove it in her face or do anything to try to make her feel guilty. And just wait and see what the Lord can do! -
My pastor of the church I'm currently attending also thinks it's very important to come to the Sunday evening services and Wednesday night services, even though my wife will fell as though I'm taking time away from her for "church" and would likely get quite angry...what about that?
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Amen bapmom. ChristBearer, my wife is faithfully attending with me a church that she insisted she could not attend. Go to God and believe that He will give the victory, just be faithful no matter what.
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I think with that attitude, you're on the right track. Again, sorry for the directness of my post. It's important that we refrain from trying to "change" our spouses. It's always detrimental to the marriage when we try to do this. So yes, leaving it to the Holy Spirit is what you should be doing, and I applaud youo for recognizing the difference.
Then perhaps in the mean time, you could continue to attend a church that you're comfortable with. If she respect you, she'll respect your decision. If, however, in the future, and regardless of her salvific state, if she ever expresses an interest in attending church, then it would be in the best interest of the both of you to perhaps visit a church that the both of you are comfortable with.
But I suspect, from reading between the lines, that there's a part of you that is a little uncomfortable where you are, but because you've been attending regularly, you're hesitant to look at other churches at the moment. If that's the case, I would lean toards starting the search for another church home.
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Christbearer,
when you are the spouse of an unsaved person I believe you are in a delicate and sometimes tough situation. You will need to have a balance there. My preacher also feels that all the services are important, but he also understands that people's situations vary.
My advice would be to either cut out one of those services for now....OR promise her that you will spend an extra evening with her in its place. Perhaps you have a hobby that you could cut time out of in order to spend more time with her? Perhaps she'd appreciate a weekly date-night....thats kind of a given for most of us ladies.
She does need to see that church is not taking the place of HER in your life. (This is not the same as God's position in your life.) It should not be a competition between her and church. Especially right now, she needs to see that you are giving up something in order to spend time with her and still be able to go to church. -
ChristBearer,
you are in one of the most difficult situations that exists for the Christian, but God is able to bear you through it. I know it's hard to have an unsaved spouse and I'm sure it tears you apart inside. Your only option is to pray earnestly for God to intervene. He will do His part. It's up to you to do yours. You must remember that your wife is watching your every move. It could very well be that your testimony will be what brings her to place where she will listen to the gospel.
As far as changing churches is concerned, that's none of our business. That's an issue that can only be settled correctly between you and the Lord. It's a tricky one, so really pray and seek God's will. If there are legitimate problems that are keeping her from your church then these need to be examined. Ovearll, I agree with bapmom. If this is where God wants you then you better not leave or your situation could get worse.
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Christ Bearer,
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Is it the "Pastor" or the "Spirit of Satan" keeping her from attending the church, don't forget this is a "Spiritual warfare" we're fighting.
"Excuses" never come from "heaven".
Can she be saved in a church that is "Compatibile" with her present "Spirit"??
By making her aware of the spiritual warfare going on, might help her "decide" to "join" the winning Team.
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