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N. Korea Warns of Strike Against S. Korea, U.S.

padredurand

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North Korea rattles her saber, we send money, they shut up for a while. It has been this way for over 50 years now. Don't dump this on Bush's doorstep.
 

Revmitchell

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North Korea rattles her saber, we send money, they shut up for a while. It has been this way for over 50 years now. Don't dump this on Bush's doorstep.


I can dump it on the door step of everyone who took part in it. Bush having presented himself as a conservative most certainly did not hold to conservative principles in a good number of areas.
 
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Magnetic Poles

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North Korea would rather create trouble than create a good life for its people. They best be careful or they will get more trouble than they counted on. Given their proximity to South Korea, Japan, and China, they are everyone's problem. IMO, they are much more dangerous than Saddam ever was. Remember that the Korean War never officially ended. Also, this is their standard behavior. Remember the Pueblo incident?
 

padredurand

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I can dump it on the door step of everyone who took part in it. Bush having presented himself as a conservative most certainly did not hold to conservative principles in a good number of areas.

That would be a whole heap of doorsteps. We could start with Truman...
 

tinytim

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Axis of Evil.. .the libs make fun of Bush for this.. but let's see...

Iraq has been dealt with...

But now N. Korea is starting up.. along with Iran and their president ImadangNutjob...

Obama and the libs can preach pacifism all they want, but ONE day N. Korea and Iran MUST be dealt with...
 

LeBuick

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Where's the Star Wars program that Ronald Reagan started when you need it?

You thinking we have no missile defense? Trust me, America is secure from missile strikes and have been since the cold war. However, the defense could be easily defeated if it were made public so don't expect it to be advertised.
 

Crabtownboy

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Axis of Evil.. .the libs make fun of Bush for this.. but let's see...

Iraq has been dealt with...

But now N. Korea is starting up.. along with Iran and their president ImadangNutjob...

Obama and the libs can preach pacifism all they want, but ONE day N. Korea and Iran MUST be dealt with...

International politics is like a chess game. North Korea is playing a gambit. If we are smart enough to play our pieces correctly then China will take care of this problem for us. But it will have to be very smart play, subtle timing and we the public will know little of what is really happening on this chess board. If the pieces are not played right the entire board will blow up and now one will be happy.
 

targus

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You thinking we have no missile defense? Trust me, America is secure from missile strikes and have been since the cold war. However, the defense could be easily defeated if it were made public so don't expect it to be advertised.


And how is it that you happen to know about this secret defense system?

And if you actually do have super-duper double-top secret clearance information why are you putting it out on a public board on the internet?
 

Crabtownboy

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And how is it that you happen to know about this secret defense system?

And if you actually do have super-duper double-top secret clearance information why are you putting it out on a public board on the internet?

It is not that hard to find information on our missile defense system.

Recent developments:


On 14 October 2002, a ground based interceptor launched from the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Site destroyed a mock warhead 225 km above the Pacific. The test included three decoy balloons.[6]

On 16 December 2002 President George W. Bush signed National Security Presidential Directive 23[7] which outlined a plan to begin deployment of operational ballistic missile defense systems by 2004. The following day the U.S. formally requested from the UK and Denmark use of facilities in Fylingdales, England, and Thule, Greenland, respectively, as a part of the NMD program. The projected cost of the program for the years 2004 to 2009 will be $53 billion, making it the largest single line in The Pentagon's budget.

Since 2002, the US has been in talks with Poland and other European countries over the possibility of setting up a European base to intercept long-range missiles. A site similar to the US base in Alaska would help protect the US and Europe from missiles fired from the Middle East or North Africa. Poland's prime minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz said in November 2005 he wanted to open up the public debate on whether Poland should host such a base.[8]

In 2002, NMD was changed to Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD), to differentiate it from other missile defense programs, such as space-based, sea-based, and defense targeting the boost phase and the reentry phase (see flight phases).

On 22 July 2004, the first ground-based interceptor was deployed at Ft. Greely, Alaska (63°57′14″N 145°44′06″W / 63.954°N 145.735°W / 63.954; -145.735). By the end of 2004, a total of six had been deployed at Ft. Greely and another two at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California. Two additional were installed at Ft. Greely in 2005. The system will provide "rudimentary" protection.

On 15 December 2004, an interceptor test in the Marshall Islands failed when the launch was aborted due to an "unknown anomaly" in the interceptor, 16 minutes after launch of the target from Kodiak Island, Alaska.

"I don't think that the goal was ever that we would declare it was operational. I think the goal was that there would be an operational capability by the end of 2004," Pentagon representative Larry DiRita said on 2005-01-13 at a Pentagon press conference. However, the problem is and was funding. "There has been some expectation that there will be some point at which it is operational and not something else these expectations are not unknown, if Congress pours more attention and funding to this system, it can be operational relatively quick."

On 18 January 2005, the Commander, United States Strategic Command issued direction to establish the Joint Functional Component Command for Integrated Missile Defense. JFCC IMD, once activated, will develop desired characteristics and capabilities for global missile defense operations and support for missile defense.

On 14 February 2005, another interceptor test failed due to a malfunction with the ground support equipment at the test range on Kwajalein Island, not with the interceptor missile itself.[9]


Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System logo_On 24 February 2005, the Missile Defense Agency, testing the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, successfully intercepted a mock enemy missile. This was the first test of an operationally configured RIM-161 Standard missile 3 (SM-3) interceptor and the fifth successful test intercept using this system. On 10 November 2005, the USS Lake Erie detected, tracked, and destroyed a mock two-stage ballistic missile within two minutes of the ballistic missile launch.[10]

On 1 September 2006, the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense System was successfully tested. An interceptor was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base to hit a target missile launched from Alaska, with ground support provided by a crew at Colorado Springs. This test was described by Missile Defense Agency director Lieutenant General Trey Obering as "about as close as we can come to an end-to-end test of our long-range missile defense system."[11] The target missile carried no decoys or other countermeasures.[12]

Deployment of the Sea-based X-band Radar system is presently underway.[13]

On 24 February 2007, The Economist reported that the United States ambassador to NATO, Victoria Nuland, had written to her fellow envoys to advise them regarding the various options for missile-defense sites in Europe. She also confirmed that “The United States has also been discussing with the UK further potential contributions to the system.”[14]

In February 2007, the US started formal negotiations with Poland (in April 2007 57% of Poles opposed the plan)[15] and Czech Republic concerning construction of missile shield installations in those countries for a Ground-Based Midcourse Defense System.[16] According to press reports the government of the Czech Republic agreed (while 67% Czechs disagree and only about 15% support it[17]) to host a missile defense radar on its territory while a base of missile interceptors is supposed to be built in Poland. The objective is reportedly to protect most of Europe from long-range missile strikes from Iran.[18] The ballistic missile-defence system currently being considered is primarily designed to protect United States.[19] More than 130,000 Czechs signed petition for referendum about the base, which is by far the largest citizen initiative (Ne základnám - No to Bases)[20] since the Velvet Revolution.[21]

On February 23, 2008, the United States successfully shot down a malfunctioning American spy satellite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Defense#Recent_developments
 

OldRegular

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International politics is like a chess game. North Korea is playing a gambit. If we are smart enough to play our pieces correctly then China will take care of this problem for us. But it will have to be very smart play, subtle timing and we the public will know little of what is really happening on this chess board. If the pieces are not played right the entire board will blow up and now one will be happy.

China could have stopped N. Korea at any time. They are simply using N. Korea as a pawn to keep the US occupied. They may have gone too far, however, if Japan goes nuclear and perhaps Taiwan.

If we were smart, which we are not, we would stop all imports from China, including the money that goes into democrat coffers.
 

tinytim

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International politics is like a chess game. North Korea is playing a gambit. If we are smart enough to play our pieces correctly then China will take care of this problem for us. But it will have to be very smart play, subtle timing and we the public will know little of what is really happening on this chess board. If the pieces are not played right the entire board will blow up and now one will be happy.


I agree:thumbsup:
 

tinytim

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China could have stopped N. Korea at any time. They are simply using N. Korea as a pawn to keep the US occupied. They may have gone too far, however, if Japan goes nuclear and perhaps Taiwan.

If we were smart, which we are not, we would stop all imports from China, including the money that goes into democrat coffers.


Don't wait for the Government to stop imports from China.. if we would just stop buying products from China.. Companies in China would quit shipping to us.

This is an email I got last week.. it made a lot of sense to me, maybe you all got one too.. if not, you WILL!

Remember--start on June 4
THE CAN FROM CHINA

I WAS BUYING FOOD THE OTHER DAY AT THE COUNTRY MARKET.
ON THE LABEL OF SOME PRODUCTS IT SAID 'FROM CHINA'.
FOR EXAMPLE THE "OUR FAMILY" BRAND OF THE MANDARIN ORANGES SAYS RIGHT ON THE CAN 'FROM CHINA'.
I WAS SHOCKED!!
SO FOR A FEW MORE CENTS I BOUGHT THE LIBERTY GOLD BRAND OR THE DOLE SINCE IT'S FROM CALIF.
TAKES FOREVER JUST TO BUY FOOD AND DO LABEL READING ! !
Are we Americans as dumb as we appear --- or --- is it that we just do not think? While the Chinese, knowingly and intentionally, export inferior and even toxic products and dangerous toys and goods to be sold in American markets, the media wrings its hands and criticizes the ex-Bush Administration for perceived errors.
Yet 70% of Americans believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended.
Well, duh..why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges?
SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, AMERICA!!
Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says 'Made in China' or 'PRC' (and that now includes Hong Kong), simply choose another product, or none at all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are on Chinese products, and you will be equally amazed at what you can do without.
Who needs plastic eggs to celebrate Easter? If you must have eggs, use real ones and benefit some American farmer. Easter is just an example, the point is do not wait for the government to act. Just go ahead and assume control on your own.
THINK ABOUT THIS: If 200 million Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese goods, that's a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our favor...fast!! [FONT=&qu ot][FONT=&qu ot]
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[/FONT]The downside? Some American businesses will feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory. Wahhhhhhhhhhhh !!!
The solution? Let's give them fair warning and send our own message. Most of the people who have been reading about this matter are planning on implementing this on June
4, and continue it until July 4. That is only one month of trading losses, but it will hit the Chinese for 1/12th of t he total, or 8%, of their American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness were worth it.

Remember, June 4 to July 4.
EVEN BETTER. . . START NOW.
Send20 this to everybody you know. Let's show them that we are Americans and NOBODY can take us for granted.
If we can't live without cheap Chinese goods for one month out of our lives, WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!
Pass it on, America
 

billwald

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Which is more honest? Canceling a truce agreement or bombing a country with guided missiles and never admitting launching them?
 
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