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Nascar is back

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  1. PastorSBC1303

    PastorSBC1303 Active Member

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    I would be ok with the road courses if it would just be the normal NASCAR drivers. But each time you get the road course specialist people and that aggrivates me. If they want to drive NASCAR thats great, but where are they at the other tracks? I get tired of watching the race and hearing about how great Boris Said is, etc.
     
    #281 PastorSBC1303, Apr 11, 2006
  2. swaimj

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    Not to beat a dead horse, but here is a section of an article on Kahne's win from the Winston-Salem Journal quoting both Kahne and Stewart. The article can be accessed at www.journalnow.com
    Kahne exhibits the proper attitude that a winner should have and he drives with the proper ethic. I like a guy who sets a good example while winning.
     
    #282 swaimj, Apr 11, 2006
  3. PastorSBC1303

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    ''I'm pretty sure Sterling Marlin's hairpiece just got in his eyes and he couldn't see what was going on.''
    -- Ryan Newman


    :eek: I must have missed this quote from Newman following the race.
     
    #283 PastorSBC1303, Apr 11, 2006
  4. swaimj

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    Newman made that comment live on FOX. It was hilarious! :D
     
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  5. ccrobinson

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    Are you advocating that a road racer ought to drive short tracks and superspeedways before they're allowed to run a road course race? Following the logic, you'd be advocating that Nascar should be in the business of telling a car owner who should drive his car. I don't agree with that at all.

    If a ringer is fast enough to make the field at Sears Point, why should it matter if he doesn't race at Bristol?

    I'm all about having the 43 fastest cars make the field, regardless of who it is.
     
    #285 ccrobinson, Apr 11, 2006
  6. PastorSBC1303

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    I see what you are saying. I guess I just don't like the fact that we see some of these guys for 2 races a year. I think it would be better if they attempted to race at other tracks as well.
     
    #286 PastorSBC1303, Apr 11, 2006
  7. ccrobinson

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    Some of them have. I know Boris ran the Daytona 500 last year, but he didn't run well. Oval racing is quite a bit different from road course racing, and road racers really seem to struggle with the differences.
     
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  8. PastorSBC1303

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    I just read where Kennseths Busch series crew chief has been suspended for a few races, he has been fined and they lost 25 points. Now why do they lose points, but Jimmie Johnson did not lose any points?
     
    #288 PastorSBC1303, Apr 11, 2006
  9. ccrobinson

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    I have no idea. Nascar continues to be wildly inconsistent about enforcing rules and handing out penalties. Maybe Jimmie Johnson has compromising pictures of Brian France and/or Mike Helton.
     
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  10. PastorSBC1303

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    Well it is quite frustrating. 25 points could be huge in this deal. Seems Johnson gets preferential treatment.
     
    #290 PastorSBC1303, Apr 12, 2006
  11. ccrobinson

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    Some would say that Hendrick drivers in general get preferential treatment. Far be it from me to buy into any sort of conspiracy nonsense, but things like this just give the conspiracy nuts more fuel for the fire.
     
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  12. Scott J

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    Maybe then... they are getting back at Kennseth for wrecking Gordon... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  13. PastorSBC1303

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    Scott would you not agree that based on how NASCAR has handled other situations Johnson deserved to lose 25 points?

    I am quite certain if it were Stewart or Dale Jr. we would be hearing about it. [​IMG]
     
    #293 PastorSBC1303, Apr 12, 2006
  14. Scott J

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    Aren't you asking me to make an objective analysis on a judicial system that is anything BUT objective?

    In the very narrow view, yes, if what Kennseth's team did was worthy of 25 points then so was Johnson's... but forget the silly suspension stuff. In fact, forget the stupid fines as well. I am sure Gordon was really hurt by that $10K fine he had to pay.

    At the same time, I doubt the same offense by Kennseth in his Cup car would have gotten a 25 point deduction. Why? Because NASCAR wants to pretend to send messages but very seldom is there any teeth that could actually change an outcome. Kennseth isn't going to compete for the Busch championship. No problem taking 25 points there. He probably will compete for the chase. Would NASCAR really want to be responsible for the 25 points that kept him out? I don't think so.

    The closest they came to an idea that could potentially effect on the track performance/championship race was when Knauss was suspending. It just didn't hurt the 48 the way NASCAR probably thought it could.

    Speaking of Stewart. Did he get a points penalty a few years ago when he T-boned Gordon after a race? While my memory isn't perfect, I don't believe that he did.

    Bottom line is that NASCAR's penalties are not objective. I am sure that they are probably pleased that millions are asking "Is this fair?" since it raises interest, keeps passions high, and fills the coiffures.

    Again, I think all of the infractions should be dealt with by point penalties that should run up to 100 for repeat offenders.
     
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    Well since Nascar won't take any points away from Johnson, perhaps one of the other drivers should spin him out this next race [​IMG]
     
    #295 PastorSBC1303, Apr 13, 2006
  16. Scott J

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    Now your talking... [​IMG]

    Think NASCAR would really be upset if someone did?
     
    #296 Scott J, Apr 13, 2006
  17. PastorSBC1303

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    No, I am pretty sure they would not be. And I can guarantee you I would not be upset [​IMG]
     
    #297 PastorSBC1303, Apr 13, 2006
  18. Bob Alkire

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    Well Kevin Harvick won last night and Tony Stewart was 2nd.
     
    #298 Bob Alkire, Apr 23, 2006
  19. ccrobinson

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    I fell asleep with about 75 to go and woke up just in time to see Harvick win. I think Harvick does the best burnouts in Cup racing.
     
    #299 ccrobinson, Apr 23, 2006
  20. swaimj

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    That was a pretty good race. Biffle had them all covered except on a long run. Late in the run his car would fade badly. Harvick took advantage of that flaw and won. Of course, Biffle ran out of gas and would have lost anyway. He really needed a lste caution.

    BTW, did anyone else see Biffle's Sub-Way commercial where he throws the sandwich in the other guy's face? Funny stuff. If his driving career wanes, he might have the stuff to be an actor.

    That win should end the rumors of Harvick going to Toyota next year. I think he'll re-sign with Childress. I couldn't believe that the FOX pit reporter didn't ask him about it in victory lane.
     
    #300 swaimj, Apr 23, 2006
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