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NHS: Starving Alfie to death was just 'redirecting care'

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  1. Matt Black

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    More misinformation. Nothing in your post is true.
     
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    NHS rationing 'is denying patients care' as cash crisis deepens

    ‘Drugs are too expensive for the NHS – and people are paying with their lives’ | Robert Hart

    The cost of NHS health care: Deciding who lives and who dies

    Sentenced to death for being old: The NHS denies life-saving treatment to the elderly, as one man's chilling story reveals | Daily Mail Online

    Patients denied treatment as NHS makes cutbacks, Telegraph can disclose

    NHS denies hip or knee operations for those who can sleep | Daily Mail Online

    NHS treatment 'being rationed'
     
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    The fact that you've had to stoop to the Daily Heil Online tells me all I need to know. I can't even be bothered to access that putrid organ
     
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    Do you want to answer the question properly or are you going to persist with your puerile reply
     
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    Have you looked at their Sidebar of Shame? Very family friendly...
     
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    Of course you can't. :Roflmao
     
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    Because I have a sense of decency. ..i don't want to have to wash my hands afterwards
     
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    And naturally all the sources used meet with the same disdain. :rolleyes:

    Denial is more than just a river in Africa. It's alive right here at BB in the person of a defensive Brit who loves to be critical of most things American but can't stand it when his native Utopia is criticised.
     
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    No the Guardian is a decent rag. But I'm surprised you cited it as it's pretty liberal by your standards and the articles are what you would characterise as 'whining' as they illustrate the underfunding problems of the NHS
     
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    I cited it because it backs up my statements, as they all do. And there are dozens more. So now you'd rather whine some more about underfunding.

    Underfunding is just an excuse. No matter how much money is put into it, it will never be enough and care will still be rationed.

    It is the nature of socialized medicine to ration medical care. They all do it.

    But I'm not sure they all refuse parents the right to care for their own child and insist on killing him themselves. That's a new low.
     
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    Alfie was not killed. He died. Quit with the misinformation.

    And all the cases you cited could have gone private, same as in the States
     
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    Yep. He died. Helped along by denial of nutrition.

    All of us will die if we don't receive nourishment.
     
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    That's a cop out for a failed system.
     
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    He died because we don't keep people alive artificially indefinitely when there is no hope. Neither do you; name a medical insurance company in the US which will pay for someone who is brain dead to be kept alive indefinitely
     
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    No it gives the lie to your 'socialized medicine' clap trap; the NHS is not the only health care provided in the UK
     
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    Total cop out. Not everyone can afford the private care with the confiscatory tax policies of your welfare utopia.

    The poor and middle class are stuck with a lousy failed system that rations care based on age and expense. Where do they go? Nowhere. They just get to live in pain or get sicker until they die.

    Voila! No more burden for your "free" medical system.

    Pathetic.

    Done here. Your system has been shown for what it is.
     
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    Alfie was an Italian citizen who the British courts confined to the hospital to be starved to death, and ordered that the parents could not remove him from the hospital to seek other treatment.

    Murder it was, and murder most foul.
     
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    More poppycock. Private health insurance premiums are not that expensive. I've used private healthcare twice when I was in a hurry for non-urgent treatment
     
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    More misinformation. You can't even spell his name.
     
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    The 23-month-old had been at the centre of a life-support fight that saw him granted Italian citizenship so that he might receive treatment in Rome.

    On Tuesday, a judge ruled he will not be allowed to go to Italy for further treatment.

    Parents Tom Evans and Kate James, both in their early 20s and from Liverpool, were represented in court to appeal against the decision, however it was again rejected.

    Alfie Evans dies at Alder Hey hospital after parents lose court battle for treatment | Metro News
     
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