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Non-KJBO lies

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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Originally posted by michelle:
Some believers grieve the Holy Spirit of truth. You say that I am, I say that you are. WE both cannot be right. One of us is wrong. I know that I am right, and I am at peace.
love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle
I have NEVER accussed you of grieving the Holy Spirit - that accusation has come form ONLY ONE direction. Let me see, if your statement is not the truth, that would make it a ...?
 

natters

New Member
Ah, thanks Johnv. I understand. I should have remembered that Michelle is alright with the translators of the KJV also observing "Istar"/"Easter". ;) Seems that michelle has made herself arbiter over the spiritual condition of centuries of men.
 

Johnv

New Member
Michelle also accuses people (like me) of sinning, but when I ask her to provide an example of where I sinned so that I may honestly repent, she either refuses to do so, or is incapable of doing so.
 

HankD

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KJV translators of the High Commission Court (one an "archbishop") and King James atrocities:

The brutality of some of the punishments issued by this court are shocking. The example of the treatment of one Puritan preacher, Alexander Leighton, in 1628 or 1629 illustrates this brutality. For writing a book that condemned the institution of bishops as "antiChristian and satanic," the High Commission Court issued a warrant for him...was tied to a stake and received thirty-six stripes with a heavy cord upon his naked back; he was placed in the pillory for two hours in November's frost and snow; he was branded in the face, had his nose spit and his ears cut off, and was condemned to life imprisonment
http://www.tegart.com/brian/bible/kjvonly/rick/influence.html

HankD
 

Scott J

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Hank, I had just found the same article. Let's see if RR or Michelle actually have the courage and basic honesty to read the article and check the facts for themselves.

Do they really want to know the truth? Or, is it as we say- their own minds have become their final authority?
 

LarryN

New Member
It's the same old story:

To KJVOnlies, the mostly Anglican translators of the KJV were saintly, wise scholars- and doctrinally sound in every regard. In contrast, the Anglicans Westcott & Hort were crazed, Satan-worshipping heretics.

As long as the character absolution or assassination suits their agenda....................
 

HankD

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Though she has been harsh, we need to be gentle...

2 Timothy 2:24-26
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all [men], apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And [that] they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

HankD
 

Scott J

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You're right. But what we are witnessing now is the thing that is most frustrating. Michelle, RR, et al. will wait for a few pages before posting again in order to avoid responding.

I wouldn't normally make an accusation without concrete proof. However, it is a persistent pattern with KJVO's in general and Michelle in particular (and to the extreme). She backed herself into a corner. She can't refute what you posted so she will evade it. She won't substantiate her false charges against MV's so she claims to have already posted the proof and we are deaf, blind, and apparently stupid to have detected her obvious exposition of factual proof.

The sad thing is that Michelle and others engage in such a determined form of self-deception before they even getting around to public displays.
 

HankD

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And you are right as well Scott. You and I both (and others) have been the object of the wrath of michelle and other KJVO. Let's keep on answering them with truth.

My technique is show the KJVO folks that they come up short when measured with their own ruler.

HankD
 

Orvie

New Member
Originally posted by RaptureReady:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Orvie:
Sorry RR, it simply doesn't work that way. Over 98% of N.T. MSS are in agreement, no matter which Family of MSS are used. (the other 2% are non essentials, i.e. not vital doctrines)...imagine this: You have 100 students sitting in a class, while one reads the page of the N.T, several minor mistakes are made, one word slightly changed, or misspelled, or other minor variations...even if ALL 100 have one different mistake, you can still reconstruct the text by comparison. i.e. you don't need to be paranoid of valid M.V.'s!
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With that said, 100 students sitting in a class, while one reads the of the King James Bible, inadvertently, no mistakes are made, because the other 99 students read from the same page. Amazing isn't it! </font>[/QUOTE]No, it's pickling the Bible in our language in the KJV.
The very translators of the KJV used a variety of MSS, multiple versions, etc. And BTW, which edition of the KJV do you mean? 1611? 1769? 1873? etc ;)
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by Terry_Herrington:
You have a point about a church using different versions. The last church I was a member of solved that problem. Everyone used the NIV, therefore there was no confusion.
Disagree! There is absolute confusion. I was a SS teacher using the KJV, but some members used their modern versions. They asked me why are they different. I explained why they are different because I realized this caused them confused when they looked up some verses that I gave them. Yes, the confusion!!!

Some go to the NIV church or NASB church or KJV church. I saw that many times.
 

natters

New Member
Askjo, it took me a while to find what you were quoting. Turns out it was 12 pages, back on page 1.
My whole sentence was "I like using a different version than the pastor" and then I explained why.

But to answer your question, I don't recall ever using a gender neutral version, but I would like to buy one just for reference.
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by Scott J:
First to update the language to contemporary, every day English... just like the originals that God gave were in the every day language of people at that time.
Update? Mis-Information! They are updated to omit, add and change any words in MVs.
Second, they are to be as accurate to the originals as possible- correcting previous renderings where the textual evidence indicates changes should be made.
Accurate? These MVs are 1% accurate textual evidence.
Both the NKJV and Revised Version were intended to be updates of the KJV.
updates to the KJV? Mis-Information! No, they did not.
However both committees took the opportunity to correct things they thought were poorly translated. For instance the NKJV rightly calls the Holy Spirit a "Him" at Romans 8:16 where the KJV calls Him an "it".
poor translated? Him or it? Mis-Information! I heard that repeatedly. Will Kinney gave his comment in his website.
I have absolutely no doubt that the NASB, NKJV, and KJV are all reliable versions of God's Word.
all reliable versions? Mis-Information! These MVs disagree each other, even that they and the KJV disagree each other.
God perfectly (completely) preserved His Word.
Word? Mis-Information! Psalm 12:6-7 said God preserved His wordS
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by robycop3:
"Variety of translations is profitable for the finding out of the sense of the Scriptures".
Mis-Information! It is not profitable due to the confusion between MVs and the KJV.
 
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