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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Nov 27, 2021.

  1. Reynolds

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    5.22 million people have died of covid. We do not know what long term damage may have occurred with the 263 million who have been infected with this man-made virus. Time will tell.
     
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    ???

    The varient was new in December 2020. Vaccines were approved for kids 5 to 11 years old in October 2021.

    Other than propaganda, what is the message of the meme?
     
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    this variant (I forget which in the order) was part of it.

    I didnt' say the cv vaxes caused the variants. I'm repeating what researchers have found which indicate the mass deployment of the cv jabs DURING the pandemic has contributed to the flourishing of the variants.

    You made an analogy to the flu jab. THAT comparison is valid ... response to the resistance. I acknowledge the cv jabs put/keep the immune system at cell mediated or even adaptive response level --- e.g. ACTIVE ... to the variant with this particular spike protein (alpha?)

    while all this is occurring, natural immunity is building to all of the variants as exposures/contraction increase. The answer in my humble but accurate opinion ... be ready to treat an infection at the first sign ... not only after an emergency situation has developed.
     
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    that i'ts a propaganda move.

    other things are happening in the news ... now we're gonna presume this one needs radical action. Closing travel to Africa ... but it's not racist ... as Biden himself charged of Trump with the very same action to China travel restrictions as this whole thing started. before we didnt' need masks, then we did ... you know the list of buffooneries ...

    and they continue.

    Now we're gonna quarantine people travellling from anywhere to the US ... cv vaxed or not ... negative test or not.

    and omicron is already here.

    what a COMPLETE buffoon.

    How much more skullduggery needs to be accomplished for follks to realize ... this ain't all that and a bag of chips. Time to goto work ... wash yer hands before you eat, get some sunshine, a little bit of exercise ... eat right, add a multi vitamin suppliement if you wish ... but PRESS ON. No Fear. No cv jab necessary in the VAAAAST majority of people.
     
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    I agree the post is propaganda, and I agree both political sides to the vaccine and virus use propaganda. It is unfortunate. It is difficult to get the truth out of either side.

    I agree with Trump about the vaccines. I think Biden went way beyond hos authority mandating vaccines/ testing (except to those federal employees under his authority).

    I pretty much ignore stuff about vaccines and viruses except on this board. I looked at the information and made up my mind over 7 months ago. I figured most had already made up their minds, the only ones changing their minds now are the unvaccinated. You can't get "de-vaccinated" even if you wanted.
     
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    That’s very doubtful. One can change his mind about having gotten vaccinated, if he survives long enough. That one cannot undo an act does not determine one’s mind about it. This is a very basic principle.
     
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    Not really that doubtful.

    Almost 20,000,000 people have been vaccinated in the US since September 1st. 17% of the US population 18 years and older have not been vaccinated (a rapidly declining population).

    Looking at the rate of boosters it appears the vaccinated are not regretting their decision. About 43,000,000 boosters have been given since mid August (and it just opened up to the general population three days ago).
     
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    OK, extremely doubtful then, as the statement was quite extreme: “…the only ones changing their minds now….”

    It is highly unlikely that all of those whose health is damaged but manage to live through the vax are happy with their decision to have been vaxxed. The number by all accounts is not zero.

    It is highly unlikely that all of those who die as a result, but have time to realize what happened first, are happy with their decision to be vaxxed. The number by all accounts is not zero.

    And we have yet to see what the results for children will be. And we have yet to see what the long term effects will be.
     
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    you can’t get “de vaxed” but you certainly CAN change your mind.

    have you not heard “im not getting the booster?”

    “i wish i hadn’t taken the shot?”

    there’s an awakening in progress despite the govt propaganda.

    The govt plan to fool many worked but it caught too many.

    to each their own but taking this Cv jab is not a good idea for most people
     
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    Test For New Omicron Variant? We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Test
    By Jon Rappoport

    Jon Rappoport’s blog

    December 3, 2021


    Within their world, you would think the pros have an easily accessible test to identify the new Omicron variant in thousands or millions of people. Otherwise, how can they claim it’s here and spreading?

    But you would be wrong.

    Let me break down how this game works. To be excessively generous, let’s say that 3 out of every 1000 positive PCR tests in America are sent to high-level labs, where genetic sequencing is done.

    A certain percentage of THOSE sequencing tests come up positive for the Delta Variant. Based on these results, MODELS are constructed.

    Now we’re REALLY into fake science. The models estimate what percentage of ALL positive PCR tests are really positive for Delta.

    I’m sorry to break this newsflash, but modelers are notorious charlatans. Their dense calculations are as far from science as a Model-T Ford is from a spaceship.

    The most notorious modeler in the world, Neil Ferguson, of the London Imperial College, bankrolled by Bill Gates, made a prediction early in 2020: by that summer, there would 500,000 COVID deaths in the UK, and 2 million in the US.

    It was this absurd prediction, swallowed whole by Boris Johnson, and swallowed whole by Donald Trump, on the urging of Tony Fauci, that led to the original mass lockdowns in US and the UK. And then other nations followed suit.

    Here is my original 2020 article on the most famous and celebrated modeler in the world, Neil Ferguson [this is level three]:

    —Neil Ferguson: the ghost in the machine—

    Why do governments salute when he predicts a pandemic and tells them to lock down their countries?

    Does anyone care about his past?

    Why does he still have a prestigious job?

    Who is he connected to?

    Neil Ferguson, through his institute at London’s Imperial College, can call the shots on a major percentage of the global population.

    He’s Mr. Genius, when it comes to projecting computer models of epidemics.

    Fellow experts puff up his reputation.

    According to the Business Insider (4/25/20), “Ferguson’s team warned Boris Johnson that the quest for ‘herd immunity’ [letting people live their lives out in the open in the UK] could cost 510,000 lives, prompting an abrupt U-turn [massive national lockdown in the UK]…His simulations have been influential in other countries as well, cited by authorities in the US, Germany, and France.”

    Not only cited, not only influential, but swallowed whole.

    Business insider continues: “On March 23 [2020], the UK scrapped ‘herd immunity’ in favor of a suppression strategy, and the country made preparations for weeks of lockdown. Ferguson’s study was responsible.”

    There’s more. A lot more.

    Same BI article: “Dr. Deborah Birx, coronavirus response coordinator to the Trump administration, told journalists at a March 16 press briefing that the Imperial paper [Ferguson’s computer projection] prompted the CDC’s new advice to work from home and avoid gatherings of 10 or more.”

    Ferguson, instigator of LOCKDOWNS. Stripping away of basic liberties. Economic devastation.

    So let’s look at Ferguson’s funding and track record, spelled out in the Business Insider piece:

    “Ferguson co-founded the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis, based at Imperial, in 2008. It is the leading body advising national governments on pathogen outbreaks.”

    “It gets tens of millions of dollars in annual funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and works with the UK National Health Service, the US Centres for Disease Prevention and Control (CDC), and is tasked with supplying the World Health Organization with ‘rapid analysis of urgent infectious disease problems’.”

    Getting the picture?

    Gates money goes to Ferguson.

    Ferguson predicts dire threat from COVID, necessitating lockdowns—thus preparing people to accept a vaccine. The vaccine Gates wants.

    Ferguson supplies a frightening computer projection of COVID deaths—to the CDC and WHO. Ferguson thus communicates a rationale for the Gates vaccine plan.

    National governments surrender to WHO and CDC and order LOCKDOWNS.

    Business Insider: “Michael Thrusfield, a professor of veterinary epidemiology at Edinburgh University, told the paper he had ‘déjà vu’ after reading the [Ferguson] Imperial paper [on COVID], saying Ferguson was responsible for excessive animal culling during the 2001 Foot and Mouth [mad cow] outbreak.”

    “Ferguson warned the government that 150,000 people could die. Six million animals were slaughtered as a precaution, costing the country billions in farming revenue. In the end, 200 people died.”

    “Similarly, he [Ferguson] was accused of creating panic by overestimating the potential death toll during the 2005 Bird Flu outbreak. Ferguson estimated 200 million could die. The real number was in the low hundreds.” HELLO?

    “In 2009, one of Ferguson’s models predicted 65,000 people could die from the Swine Flu outbreak in the UK — the final figure was below 500.”

    So you have to ask yourself, why would anyone believe what Ferguson has been predicting in this COVID hustle?

    Are his fellow experts that stupid?

    Are presidents and prime ministers that stupid?

    And the answer is: This is a monumental covert op; some people are that stupid; some are caught up in the op and are afraid to say the emperor has no clothes; some are aware of what is going on, and they want to destroy national economies and lead us into, yes, a new world order.

    Gates knows he has his man: Ferguson. As the recipient of tens of millions of dollars a year from the Gates Foundation, Ferguson isn’t about to issue a model that states: COVID is nothing to worry about, let people live their lives and we’ll be all right. The chance of that happening is on a par with researchers admitting they never actually discovered a new virus as the cause of illness in 2019, in Wuhan.

    In order to justify injecting every man, woman, and child in the world with synthetic genes, Gates needs A STORY ABOUT A DEADLY VIRUS THAT NECESSITATES SHUTTING DOWN AND IMPRISONING THE PLANET, ACHIEVING A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE.

    He’s got the story, all dressed up in a computer model, composed by a man with a past record of abject and devastating failures.

    Neil Ferguson is the ghost in the machine. The machine is the World Health Organization and the CDC. The man behind the ghost is Bill Gates.

    —Those are the three layers of this story. Fraud, fraud, and fraud. But don’t worry. Tony Fauci will smooth out the wrinkles and assure us all that we’re on the right track. We just have to destroy the village in order to save it. Piece of cake.

    (edited to fit)
     
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    I know many who ate not (for now) getting the booster. That does not mean they changed their minds about the vaccinations. It means they decided not to get boosters.

    Most anti-covid-vaxers know their reasoning are false. They know what they claim is merely propaganda. It is easy to claim covid is influenza, vaccines ate gene therapy, covid is a Freemadon conspiracy, the vaccines fo not work, etc. It is much harder to believe it. They are just playing politics.

    This 17% is thankfully decreasing as more are deciding to get vaccinated as a health decision rather than refuse for political reasons.

    There will always be a special group who really believes the propaganda. Ironically their political heros ate often vaccinated themselves (just opposing federal mandates). These will not change their minds.
     
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    This is another of those differences without distinction deals.

    If you accept the notion the cv vaxes are safe and effective, why would you reject the booster? Suddenly unconcerned about contracting covid? Don’t believe the “science” behind the effectivity period… that it IS longer than the recently declared period?
     
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    There are many reasons. The primary one has been varients. The vaccine has been proven effective against varients we have had thus far, with the exception of the omicron varient. But the vaccine was less effective against Delta than the previous varient. So there is a let's wait and see idea out there.

    We have seen that covid really is largely a pandemic among the unvaccinated (they are the ones who most often are hospitalized and most often die). But with a new varient who knows? The vaccinated may end up in the same boat as covid survivors.

    Boosters need to be adapted to varients, and with mRNA vaccines this should be much easily done.
     
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    And let’s not forget what is considered “vaccinated”

    Two weeks after the (last) jab.

    There are so many rabbits in this it’s becoming a task to manage what is real and what is manufactured/manipulated. Most of it is the latter.

    Let’s remember, too, the official definition of a vaccine has suddenly been revised. Because “untruth” has been repeated, or because the substance doesn’t measure to the definition of a vaccine ... which hadn’t been a problem with previous injections.

    I pray revelation about this is given to God’s people soon ... the 10% requisite truth has been “there’s a virus” ... after that ... varying degrees of misdirection.
     
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    Those who insist on “ following the science” are just parroting the DNC and big pharma talking points. Of course it’s a light of hand, while they are doing that data is being manipulated and or ignored to meet the intended end.

    If you want to find the truth don’t follow the science follow the money.
     
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    The official definition of "vaccine" has not changed. The CDC clarified the definition due to misinformation. The pneumonia shot, rubella, measles, mumps shots, the flu shot, the hepatitis A and B shots, the mumps shots... all of these are like the covid shots in that they provide functional immunity and not sterilizing immunity.

    Anti-covid-vaxers spread misinformation that the covid vaccine was not a vaccine because (like all of our vaccines except the chickenpox vaccine) the covid vaccine did not provide sterilizing immunity.

    The CDC did not change the meaning of a vaccine but clarified to combat the lie.
     
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