In the beginning, there may be a difference between "government run" and "government backed." However, I contend that "government backed" will quite rapidly morph into "government run." Especially under our current leaders.
Exhibit 1: General Motors.
Obama Rhetoric vs Health Care Reality
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Jun 12, 2009.
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Making abortions illegal won't stop abortions, it will do just that, make them illegal. Prisons are full of people who did things illegal. This would relegate the procedures to non-medical "pushers" who would perform the procedures through what ever means and would then put the mother also at risk. If you are indeed pro-life, you would be concerned about both lives and not just the unborn.
Laws keep honest people honest but has never stopped a criminal from doing anything. There is a clear disconnect in the human psyche that makes one feel abortion is a good solution. In the name of Christianity, I believe our task is to transform these individuals by the renewing of their minds. That is our Christian endeavor... -
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(Further note: government's failures have proven to be a bi-partisan phenomenon. Bush's FEMA was a train-wreck; as will Obama's healthcare plan be. The problem isn't the "D" or "R" suffix; it is what I enumerated earlier....just wanted to clear that up, so it wouldn't be thought of that I approve of "R" big government, either).
EDIT: I just read the above paragraph. If asked to diagram that sentence, I'll probably just disown that I wrote the doggone thing. :D :D -
This comes courtesy of Neal Boortz:
He said that those "here in Washington who've grown accustomed to sky-is-falling prognoses and the certainties that we cannot get this done, I have to repeat and revive an old saying we had from the campaign: 'Yes, we can.'"
- "Yes we can" make the dumb masses react positively to another focus-group based sloganeering campaign.
- "Yes we can" take control of another 20% of the American economy.
- "Yes we can" gain even more control over you by controlling your access to health care.
- "Yes we can" ration health care.
- "Yes we can" make the necessary excuses when this whole thing turns into dog squeeze. We'll blame what's left of the private sector.
- "Yes we can" stifle innovation in health care for the rest of time.
- "Yes we can" create long waiting lines for seeing a specialist.
- "Yes we can" make it seem as if there are only two MRI units in the entire nation
- "Yes we can" make the Canadians feel better knowing that misery loves company
- "Yes we can" successfully ignore the private sector's role in health care.
- "Yes we can" help to bury the people the people who die because their access to health care was limited due to their age.
- "Yes we can" run your health care like we've run Social Security and Medicaid.
- "Yes we can" fool most of the people in this country ... most of the time.
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Access to healthcare is already a problem for the uninsured. It is also rationed by the fact that they cannot afford it. Even folks with so-called "good" insurance are rationed by high deductibles.
And for all its troubles, Social Security has done more to keep older Americans out of poverty and to give them a decent standard of living than anything else. Compare how most seniors today live vis-a-vis those of the pre Social Security era. It needs to be fixed, but it has succeeded in its goals. -
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Great compassion for those in bad situations who are hurting. -
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The mother who seeks an abortion has far more problems than just the obvious. This is a person who is truly crying on the inside in seek of direction. God has made us custodians, defenders and propagators of the direction which they SHOULD seek. Our mission, the great commission is to present the direction.
Who are we to cast away a soul because they are considering a bad choice or is our mission to do our best to help this individual see the light? Who are we to write off a person because they've sinned? Did God give you that license? I mean to write them off without first witnessing.
The mother is still a life and a soul put here by God and is someone we should equally seek to save. To deny this is to pass your own judgment on this individual and makes you just as guilty of murder. Eternal murder...
It seems one can be so caught up in being anti-abortion that we forget the real mission of the Church. That is why God has us here, to go into the world and make disciples. We are here to save all souls and not just those of the unborn (who are already saved by the way).
Again Rev, I hate to see anyone get so anti abortion that they forget about the mission of the Church. I have no problem with doing for the unborn but I believe God's concern and love is for all life and not just the unborn.
I may be wrong but I cry less for the unborn because they bypassed the misery and suffering of this world and went directly to be with the Lord. A law won't change that but I am not against having the law. -
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This is one of many to include suggesting a terrorist should slit my throat. But I am sure both comments come out of brotherly love.:rolleyes: -
But you are responsible for your comments, not RM's. If RM makes a hateful comment to you, and I see it, I speak up.
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Obama directly contradicts your assertion:
Obama: Govt-run health care could trump private
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My point to LB was that I do not offer a blanket defense for the entire body of anyone's posts...
But when I see one that unfairly attacks, I hope that I'm consistent enough to point that out. And his insinuation that you don't care about the moms is an unfair attack, IMO
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