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Here you simply fall upon tradition as the function in Baptist congregations you observed.

 

In the OT, those who were saved were under the New Covenant, while the rest were under the Old Covenant relationship, as all circumcised Jews were under national Israel, but just saved under spiritual Israel!

 

Book on Covenant theology from Baptist perspective by Phillip D. R. Griffiths a must read in this discussion!

 

Scriptures say to us that the children are under the presense of the kingdom via saved parents, under be able to hear the good news, but not that they are actually automatically into the NC!

 

Believers water baptism is the NT practice!

 

I don't agree here.
All of us are under the Abrahamic Covenant which tells us about faith in the promised one as justification.
Israel (the descendants of Jacob) were given the law (the Sinai Covenant) that gave the law and directed that the Promised One would fulfill the law and thus establish the New Covenant which included all nations is writing the law upon our hearts through the Promised One, Jesus Messiah.

If circumcision established the Sinai Covenant to infants in Israel, does baptism establish the New Covenant to infants in spiritual Israel?

Listening to the debate between John MacArthur and RC Sproul on this subject helps understand both the regulative position as well as the normative position on infant baptism. I suggest listening as it is a very helpful debate.

 

All the explicit verses show believers baptism. There is an argument for implicit infant baptism. That requires implied assumptions and accepting the early church implementation of infant baptism.

 

What scripture. Please quote.

 

This one?
Baptism Debate with R.C. Sproul and John MacArthur by Various Teachers

 

I believe Dave knew he was going to heaven. same difference.

 

I know how it works in my area.

 

Until Christ's ascension none of the OT saints went to heaven.

 

And they STILL haven't. Paradise will be emptied at the rapture, while "torments" will likely be occupied until the millenium ends.

 

So how is paradise already in the third heaven? 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.

 

The Mosaic law was works based, and those who obeyed God received physical blessings, but those saved in Israel under the Old Covenant were saved by the NC of promise!

 

It also requires one to hold to some kind of salvation was provided to Israel under the Old Covenant!

 

same verse you quoted, husbands and children sanctified by believing spouse, but not saved, but brought under presence of the Holy Spirit thru that saved person in household!

 

Were still redeemed though!

 

The promise is in the Abrahamic Covenant.

 

How so?
Infants in Israel were not saved by their circumcision. Nor are infants in the Church saved by their baptism. In both cases salvation is by grace through faith. One was looking forward to the Promise in faith. The other is looking backward to the Promise in faith.