Newton was not by any stretch of the imagination a historian; the quotes I've see about Baptists I have been unable to find outside of Landmark sites.
His work on physics, calculus and optics was truly groundbreaking; he also was (as Mioque said) an alchemist and kabbalahist.
Milton was a polemicist in the service of Cromwell's government; he was no historian.
As to Edwards, I can't say, though I don't remember him being thought of as a historian.
Origin of the Waldenses
Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by dean198, Jul 27, 2004.
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One party to the case is trying to prove a negative.
It is trying to prove there is no link to the First Century.
The finding for the other side (which is trying to prove a link with the First Century) is not proven due to a dearth of reliable evidence. Please note: I wrote reliable evidence. There is evidence to be presented for the claim. But there are reasonable objections to that evidence which have not been answered. -
"he helped invent Calculus, among other things! "
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You are talking to a person who can't even comprehend the basics of that field.
To be honest I'm aware of the fact that Newton had a distuingished career as both a scientist and a civil servant. That doesn't change the fact that he truly was something of a crackpot, who spend most of his life seriously studying something that in those days already was considered a completely outdated pseudoscience. -
As for Calculus,
-Limits teach you that you can only go so far without falling off the chart.
-Derivatives teach you that slopes change continuously--ups and downs, you know.
-Integrals teach you that there is an easier way to measure area, volume, and to write computer games.
-Series formulas teach you that there is more than one way to count fast... -
Have you ever read Faber, Allix, Jones, Morland et al on the Waldenses? maybe you should.....I certainly don't think they were modern day Baptists who can trace themselves to the apostles....but maybe these writers are right in asserting that many took refuge under the more independently minded bishops of Milan and Turin. Enough for now.
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As a historian Newton was one of the first, if not the first, to use astonomical events like meteors and eclipses to date ancient events. His work on Daniel and Revelation is excellent....a classic historicist work, and not at all comparable to the dispensational fiction of Tim LaHaye. He had a good knowledge of the ancient languages, and in his 'Chronology of Ancient Kingdoms Amended' he collapsed the chronology of Egypt and revised the chronology of the ancient world in a way which historians and archaeologists are only now beginning to see (Peter James, David Rohl, Immanuel Velikovsky, Donovon Courville etc). In my opinion, he was probably the biggest genius ever to have lived.
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"He also wrote commentaries on Revelation and Daniel...Left Behind, circa 17th century England..."
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Where they intended for publication during his lifetime?
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Dean
Peter James, David Rohl, Immanuel Velikovsky, Donovon Courville
I don't know anything about the first and last guy on that list, but the 2 in the middle are charlatans especially Velikovsky. -
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Here is a good link on Newton entitled Was Newton An Arian?
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Michael Sanders' site:
http://www.biblemysteries.com/
Good article:
http://www.knowledge.co.uk/sis/ancient.htm
Tools to open Scripture:
http://www.rianda.com.au/chron.html
Centuries of Darkness by Peter James - Book Reviews
http://www.centuries.co.uk/reviews.htm
David Rohl Website:
http://www.nunki.net/
Velikovsky:
www.varchive.org
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