Damned to hell or not? Discuss.
Orthodox Christians
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Anastasia, Oct 31, 2012.
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Not sure what you are trying to say?
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Are you asking about Eastern Orthodox Christians? If so I've never researched them.
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They maintained the correct decisions of Constantine at the Council of Nicaea in 325AD and beyond of other Emporers, they accurately defined the Holy Ghost and separated God from Jesus from the Holy Ghost. In addition, they carried-on the Mary Magdalene story. They ruled All of Roman Chridtianity untill 1453AD and the RCC untill 1054AD.
They were demonetized around the 1054AD Schism by the remnant of the W. Romans and the RCC. This all resulted when RCC originated in 1053AD during the Schism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East–West_Schism
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Eastern Orthodoxy is the branch of Christendom that has changed the least over the centuries.
They are the branch that has held to the original doctrine of the atonement -- Christus Victor.
I like and agree with many of their teachings. Some I can't go along with, though. -
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As far as young earth creationist I believe Orthodox don't hold anyone to a young earth view but they understand the creation story similar to a Mishnaic type teaching. Teaching theolgoical truths in an understandable format that isn't meant to be taken literal in a technical scientific frame work. But certainly Orthodox can take it that way if they wish.
As for the Saints they hold to the Nicean Creed of the communion of Saints. The belief that all Christians who die temporally aren't really dead but more alive in Christ as they are with God. And since the church resides both in and out of space time that when someone passes from this life they are still members of the church interceding or praying for us in this current struggle cheering us on to life with them in heaven praising God the Father. So they do pray for their intercessions. -
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And I contend that Sacramentalism is not a false gospel and that despite what you think you actually practice Sacramentalism. Because Sacaments aren't the Gospel themselves they are ways which God gives grace to us. The gospel is a different animal. It comes from Greek indicating a military victory anouncement ie "good news!" (the battle is won!) What is the Good News? What is this miliatary victory anouncement? Well, Catholics, Orthodox, Copts, Assryrian Christians, Protestants, Baptist all claim the same thing. God became incarnate, suffered and died for us but also he raised from the dead defeating sin and death so that whomever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life with the forgiveness of sins. Where we differ is in aspects of understanding this Good news. -
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Orthodoxwiki also cites 2 Peter 1:4
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Sue convinces me. How about you?
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"Days" are mostly irrelevent, ONE GOD, ..... EVERYTHING FROM NOTHING ; are not!
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The Trinity copnception has been struggled in Christiandom since Paul's and Peter's intense debates when James gave Christiondom to Paul.
The Eastern Orthodox, being the State Church from Constantine the Great, still generally keeps the prevailing Arian principal desicion of Constantine eminating from the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD that there is only One God, one Jesus/Christ the Son of Man/God, and one Holy Ghost, each distinct.
http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/doctrine1.aspx
THE HOLY TRINITY
By the 4th century a polarity developed between the Eastern and Western Christians in their respective understandings of the Trinity. In the West God was understood primarily in terms of one essence (the Trinity of Persons being conceived as an irrational truth found in revelation); in the East the tri-personality of God was understood as the primary fact of Christian experience. For most of the Greek Fathers, it was not the Trinity that needed theological proof but rather God's essential unity. The Cappadocian Fathers (Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Basil of Caesarea) were even accused of being tri-theists because of the personalistic emphasis of their conception of God as one essence in three hypostases (the Greek term hypostasis was the equivalent of the Latin substantia and designated a concrete reality). For Greek theologians, this terminology was intended to designate the concrete New Testamental revelation of the Son and the Spirit, as distinct from the Father.
Modern Orthodox theologians tend to emphasize this personalistic approach to God; they claim that they discover in it the original biblical personalism, unadulterated in its content by later philosophical speculation.
This is a profound understanding but for some reason remanins severly contraversial.
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1. The condemnation/punishment of the law against sin FULLYsatisfied
2. The righteousness demanded by the law FULLY satisfied
That is how Christ won the VICTORY over sin - by fully satisfying God's Law by his life (spotless lamb) offered up substitutionarily for sinners which God accepted and the proof is the resurrection over death by Christ.
Your gospel is BAD NEWS when it comes to satsifying the demands of God's righteous demands! You preach a HALF gospel and thus "another gospel" as you deny the most important aspect. -
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