Whats going on here? What if Obama orders and attack on Israel? What then? http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e5e4a218-35b4-11df-963f-00144feabdc0.html
Our Secretary of State threatening Israels survival?
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Thinkingstuff, Mar 24, 2010.
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Any other links? Without a quote, no idea whats posted.
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Sorry here is the article.
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Where do you get any idea the US was going to attack Israel?
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I doubt King Zero has the cojones to attack Israel, but he is petty enough to stand back and let the Muslim world do so unimpeded.
I am fed up with Hillary's BS and Zero's approval of it. Israel is building on its own land... land it wrestled from the clutches of others that was rightfully theirs. And now our government wants them to give up the land for the Palestinians (and that goes back before Zero took the throne).
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If I was Netanyahu I would tell the USA, "sure we will stop building in Jerusalem, as soon as America also promised to cease any and all construction done in Washington DC."
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Why are we fussing about Israel doing stuff with land they acquired? You or I may not like it...but to the victors go the spoils of war. It doesn't seem to stop us here in the US from building on lands acquired from the Indians.
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I still don't see any indication that the US will be arming Israel's enemies. Perhaps I missed it. -
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I think Obama want's a peace with Islamic nations so much that providing for them military hardware (as we do with Pakistan, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc...) is a simple compromise from him. -
I think we are a long, long way from the US turning its back on one of its most trusted allies.
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Lets just say for argument's sake that the current State of Israel has nothing to do with Biblical Israel. Even then doing anything to anger this powerful ally would be nothing shoot of foolish. Even the current administration, for all its problems, is not that stupid.
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England has dismissed a diplomat over the Mossad assasination of a Hamas leader. World opinion has never really been that much in favor of israel. But now relationship with its friends seem strained. -
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Pragmatism is immaterial to the "0" - he's got bigger fish to fry right now.
Unfortunately, we'll never know what his precise plans are until it's too late to prevent; save some direct intervention from God Himself, as the "0" and his minions keep the focus on everything but his agenda.
Like I say, once we know his master plan (or those of his superiors) it will be too late for the citizenry to do squat to avoid it.
In fact, I would not be at all surprised to see the "0" declare martial law prior to the Nov elections! Hope I'm totally off base here, but----! -
We already have, many times.
Our government will sell Israel military hardware because we need the cash and jobs and because they use the hardware to keep mutual enemies in check. Keeping them strong keeps the Middle East focused on its hatred of Israel, diverting some of the focus of its hatred from us. And we, like the rest of the world, need their exports, mostly of farm products.
If it weren't for a vocal minority on the religious right in our country, we'd have long ago sacrificed this relationship in an attempt to appease our Middle East enemies. We did not stand by the Jewish people in WWII and we do not stand by Israel now in any of its conflicts. As soon as the cost outweighs the benefits, which it may already have, and as soon as the U.S. administration of the time believes it can get away with it, we as a nation will sell this relationship for whatever we can get for it.
Just yesterday, our president thought so little of our relationship with Israel he humiliated its leader:
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The 'humiliation' discussed was seen from an Israeli perspective. Our government leaders regularly humiliate foreign leaders in the eyes of foreign governments.
Obama and Nethenyahu differ on this aspect of Israeli policy. Of course they are going to view Obama's actions as humiliating. I don't see how this disagreement over settlements can be seen as a general 'thinking poorly of Israel.'
I am not so sure that the current State of Israel has anything to do with Biblical Israel. My support for Israel comes from the fact that she has been a solid ally through the years.
Curious as to why you say the US did not stand by the Jews in WWII?
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