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Passive Occupy protesters take pepper spray blast

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by freeatlast, Nov 20, 2011.

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  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Notice what the Chancellor's statement is based upon? Collectivism.

    To sacrifice the individual for the sake of the collective. This nation was founded on the principle of protecting the individual. Not the collective.

    Does that even matter to those here who are defending her? No.


    Enforce a law and meeting resistance? These kids defied her "authority" and she met it with force. Law. We only care about the "law" when it serves our purpose. Otherwise the law be damned!

    Hypocrites
     
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  2. Bro. Curtis

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    Once again, Robert Snow shows an uncomfortable obsession with me, perhaps a crush, I don't know. I do know he passed over several posts that said the same thing I did, just to insult me. Since he cannot do it by P.M. anymore....

    I guess I live, rent free, inside his head. He must be a miserable dude.
     
    #22 Bro. Curtis, Nov 20, 2011
  3. poncho

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    Yeah, I get the same thing from InTheDark unlike Robert he prefers to attack me while hidding behind the ignore button. Coward. Least Robert has the courage to do it out in the open.
     
    #23 poncho, Nov 20, 2011
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    Wholly agree with you here. They show a LOT of restraint which must be very difficult.

    As for the spraying pepper spray down their throats, where is the video? I didn't see that in the video.
     
    #24 annsni, Nov 20, 2011
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  6. Robert Snow

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    I just like to point out hypocrisy when it is so obvious.

    I bet Curtis has the longest ignore list on the board. He seems to relish in who he doesn't like to talk with.
     
    #26 Robert Snow, Nov 20, 2011
  7. Mexdeaf

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    Many of the OWS people are anarchists. They have no respect for others, much less authority.

    Here is an excellent commentary on the OWS protesters that should be read by everyone, IMHO.

    "Call it an occupational hazard, but I can’t look at the Occupy Wall Street protesters without thinking, “Who parented these people?”

    As a culture columnist, I’ve commented on the social and political ramifications of the “movement” - now known as “OWS” - whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: “Everything for everybody.”"

    Read the entire article at:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/18/hicks-some-belated-parental-advice-to-protesters/
     
    #27 Mexdeaf, Nov 20, 2011
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    Yes, you said this not long after advocating that snipers be used to execute people violating curfew. :laugh:
     
    #28 targus, Nov 20, 2011
  9. Bro. Curtis

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    Nope. You put up a strawman. An imaginative action. Something yoiu "suppose" I must do. You have zero facts. Only insults. You are nothing but a gnat.


    At this time, there are 4 current members on my ignore list. You are there because of your childish, taunting, insulting P.M.s.
     
    #29 Bro. Curtis, Nov 20, 2011
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    Those who were violating a curfew were poised to do violence these people were not. These people were not breaking any law as far as I have seen.
     
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    #31 Robert Snow, Nov 20, 2011
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    :laugh::thumbsup:
     
    #32 Bro. Curtis, Nov 20, 2011
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    I can tell them: The parents who allowed their children the freedom to express themselves no matter how it affected anyone else and the parents who said "You can be anything!!" - but then the kids realized that it's a lie unless they want to work REALLY hard and they don't.
     
    #33 annsni, Nov 20, 2011
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    It was in the letter to the Chancellor. I suppose the guy that wrote the letter lied though. Had to be because the authorities never lie or abuse their authority.

    We all know that.
     
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    I don't care if someone is protesting the use of sugar in coffee, the more I see of police action against this group, the more I sympathize with the group rather than the police. At first I figured yeah, lots of hoopla and exaggeration, but then I watched the (8 minutes +) video and this one:

    Here's another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHXuf6qJas&feature=related

    and I have to say...what I'm seeing appears to be extremely unjustified.
     
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    No, you may not--because I never said that. My argument with you was your unproven, unsubstantiated statement that many policemen who are guilty of police brutalityare prior military--even in the face of research I provided that indicated prior military service had no bearing on whether a policeman was more prone towards brutality.

    Just like in the 60's, eh?
    According to the chancellor of the college, they were posing a safety risk to the rest of the college community. The police were merely there at the chancellor's request to enforce a policy for the safety of all. Aren't you the one that said policemen don't get to make the laws, only enforce them?
     
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    A highly offensive remark it was on his part. This is how trouble often starts. Out of ignorant and unfounded garbage like that.
     
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    Gina, I have a question for your consideration: how long have the protests been going on? Weeks? And how much video has been put out on police response? You identify 8 minutes of video, for just this particular situation; how long were the campus police on scene before they started the pepper spray?

    How come we're only seeing the video that puts the police in the worst light possible? Where's all the video of policemen showing restraint?
     
    #38 Don, Nov 20, 2011
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    Some of you people scare me. I think the OWS movement is idiotic, but I will defend to my death if necessary their right to peaceable assembly and petition for redress of grievances.

    I am glad many of you were not in Birmingham in 1963 or Selma in 1965.

    The cops were out of control. Just leave them alone and sooner or later they will tire of it all and go home. All the cops did was give them more reason to protest.
     
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    Remember Kent State?
    Yeah. Sure. It was for "safety." Whose safety were they putting in jeopardy?

    I got stopped by a cop Friday for lane sharing on my motorcycle (going between lanes of traffic during a traffic back up). He pulled me over and began to lecture me about lane sharing. I informed him it was perfectly legal in California and if he doubted it I would help him search the CVC (California Vehicle Code) to find any laws that address the issue. He declined knowing it was not illegal, so, instead he trotted out the old "safety" argument. "For your own safety, don't do it!" Again I informed him that as a motorcycle rider with well over 50 years experience that being beside the cars was much better than being trapped between them. He got all angry and said, "Look you, see this badge? I'm telling you not to do that!" I then reached into my back pocket and brought out my badge (which outranked his but three levels) and told him if he would like to debate the issue I would be glad to meet him in his boss's office before the end of shift. He didn't say a word, just got in his car and drove away.

    The point is that all too many cops today think "contempt of cop" is a capital offense. A little civil disobedience is a good thing. It reminds the cops, and the University Chancellors, who they work for!

    The best course of action is often to do nothing. These people did not actively resist arrest. Pulling back when somebody grabs you is reflex, not resistance. The cops were wrong. They were arrogant. Those responsible need to be held accountable.
     
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