I just asked my good friend NiteShift in another thread how many actual terrorist events and terror plots blamed on "Al Qeada" he could name that did not involve government informants acting as ringleaders since 2001.
Let's see how many he can up with. I'll check back in a little bit to see how he's doing. :smilewinkgrin:
Phoney Terror Threats?
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Dec 27, 2010.
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My friend NS must be on vacation. Or he's still searching.
Can anyone else find any actual terrorist events or terror plots blamed on "Al Qeada" that did not involve government informants acting as ringleaders since 2001? -
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Poncho, in the interest of fairness...
Can you please prove that there is no terrorist threat? -
The many terror events and plots that did have government informants acting as ringleadrs can easily be found in the corporate mass media's newspapers and tv shows.
These "threats" have been used to frighten Americans into accepting a whole host of intrusive big government "security" measures and other extra constitutional acts and it's been working very well for the big intrusive government and it's corporate partners in mass media.
To classify any of these "threats" would be kind of like killing their golden goose. No, I suspect you can't find any terror events or plots void of government informant ringleaders because they do not exist. -
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No, there is now and always has been a terrorist threat.
What I do say is that most of them today are contrived. Can I prove this?
Well, history does show that our government and mass media have contrived these kinds of threats among others for decades to persuade the public into accepting wars and the consolidation of power into fewer and fewer hands.
I guess it all boils to whether you'd rather believe history and facts or an overgrown corupt government that has been taken over by global corporate interests. -
It would probably be something like, "Poncho, you just hate America." -
Then what is the point of your challenge? -
Here's a hint, it ain't "Al Qeada". -
It's a weak tactic, but CTs will do anything to make themselves look like legitimate authorities on the things that frighten them the most. -
What to do about it?
Psychotropic drugs maybe? :laugh: -
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A suspect accused of attempting to plant a bomb on New York's Times Square has ties with the Islamic preacher who inspired a US soldier to kill 12 comrades at Fort Hood and the Christmas Day would-be bomber.
Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistani-born US citizen has told interrogators that he been inspired to take up the cause of al Qaeda and radical Islam by the internet messages of Anwar Al-Awlaki, a Yemen-based imam.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...omb-suspect-had-links-to-terror-preacher.html -
It'll take that long to go through it all. :smilewinkgrin:
But, first do you know what "false flag" operations are? Or how they've been used in the past as pretexts for wars?
Here's one example.
The Reichstag Fire.
How History Is Created.
Our friend "Pee Wee" will no doubt have some more demonization attempts and childish antics to display in this thread but don't let him bother ya. He gets a power trip from the warfare state and hates it whenever anyone posts the truth about it. Evidently he's a strong believer in the Orwellian adage of "ignorance is strength" :smilewinkgrin: -
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Are you familiar with the term strategy of tension?
The covert objectives of Gladio were to spread panic and unrest through the implementation of "terrorist outrages," and also to directly attack the Left in an attempt to provoke them into an armed response. The purpose of this strategy was to demonize the Left and isolate them from popular support, while providing an excuse to curtain civil liberties. As a 1969 memo from Aginter Press, a fascist front group, explained:
Our belief is that the first phase of political activity ought to be to create the conditions favouring the installation of chaos in all of the regime's structures. This should necessarily begin with the undermining of the state economy so as to arrive at confusion throughout the whole legal apparatus. This leads on to a situation of strong political tension, fear in the world of industry and hostility towards the government and the political parties.… In our view the first move we should make is to destroy the structure of the democratic state, under the cover of communist and pro-Chinese activities. Moreover, we have people who have infiltrated these groups and obviously we will have to tailor our actions to the ethos of the milieu — propaganda and action of a sort which will seem to have emanated from our communist adversaries and pressure brought to bear on people in whom power is invested at every level. That will create a feeling of hostility towards those who threaten the people of each and every nation, and at the same time we must raise up a defender of the citizenry against the disintegration brought about by terrorism and subversion.…
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This "strategy of tension," organized around a brutal campaign of terror and murder, resulted in the deaths of hundreds of people during the decades of the 1970s and '80s. The wave of terror led to the severe restriction of civil rights, with the 1975 law restricting popular campaigning and radical political discussion. Many people were locked up under "anti-terrorist" legislation (sound familiar?) or expelled from the country.
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In other words, the idea was to first terrorize the citizenry then provide a defender to keep them safe . . . by curtailing civil liberties and cracking down on dissent. It's an old old method. Telling the truth becomes treason and political dissent makes YOU a terrorist suspect.
Have you heard of agent provocateurs?
An agent provocateur may be a police officer or a secret agent of police who encourages suspects to carry out a crime under conditions where evidence can be obtained; or who suggests the commission of a crime to another, in hopes they will go along with the suggestion and be convicted of the crime.
Which leads us to all these so called "terror events and plots" that have government informants acting as the ringleaders. I could post a bunch of these stories too if you'd like.
But wait that's not all! I'll go one better and actually follow up on these stories so you can see how they turned out in court. But not today. You have enough to ponder for now. -
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Remember the "Liberty City Seven"?
Who were the ringleaders? Two paid FBI informants.
FBI Role in Terror Probe Questioned.
What was in it for the informants? $$$
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