Politics slamming hydroxychloroquine in studies now drawing some contempt of the data they used

I wasn't aware of either getting covid19 and taking it for treatment. So you are left with prophylaxis. Or are you suggesting they took it for recreational purposes?

 

There is no explanation that I have seen so if you can come up with a published report, great; otherwise, you are merely speculating.

 

This is a major scandal. No question people have died because of this.


A Second Major COVID Study by Surgisphere Analytics Company Is Retracted

These studies are being retracted, but some are saying there need to be resignations. I would think there needs to be lawsuits as well, by families who were lead to believe HCQ was dangerous, and ended up losing a loved one. Doctors and researchers who trashed HCQ because of their Trump derangement can never be trusted. If you find out your doctor hates Trump, run. Find a new one.

 

This may be the biggest medical scandal in history. I'd love to see Barr look into this. 100% political.

EXCLUSIVE: The Lancet Study on Hydroxychloroquine Was a COMPLETE FRAUD – The Authors are Linked to the Pharmaceutical Industry and People Died Because of Their Lies!

 

It is nonsense to say that all pre-treatment is only for prevention, when it is common knowledge that it can also be aimed at potentially minimizing effects.

 

It is nonsense to say there is no evidence of political motivation involved. The study was bound to affect the policies regarding the use of the drug, thus politics are inherently directly involved.

 

Your statement does not make medical sense. If you are talking about minimizing effects of covid19 before getting an infection, that is prophylaxis or prevention.

 

it had a political effect. But the motivation for the fraud so far was not shown to be politically motivated. Just fraud, likely so a small research startup could bolster its reputation to gain more business.

 

It makes perfect sense. In your description, you only included preventing getting the disease; you did not include getting a milder case.

 

you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and are arguing for the sake of arguing. Make your straw castles somewhere else.

 

And just how long and how hard was it to expose the fraud? Not long enough and not hard enough to give them any advantage in the market. It was a flimsy fly-by-night.

 

You are clearly resorting to ad hominem, as is your wont. You have no argument, no defense.

You clearly omitted the minimization aspect in your description and I pointed it out. Show where your description explained it and I'll retract, but you are clearly wrong and will not be able to.

If you are going to explain medical terms, then do so by giving the range, not one aspect as though you covered it thoroughly.

 

Furthermore, you specifically cited infection rate, which again only refers to getting the disease; it does not address severity of cases, which is what I am referring to.

 

I see engaging in a reasoned discussion with you is just not possible anymore and you just shovel straw. All you ask for is plain to see. Until then, have a nice life.

 

More ad hominem and zero argument. You have yet to provide any reasoned discussion here. I provided you with your own statements contradicting your claims and you were unable to point out where I was wrong or misinterpreting.

I don't mind your wanting to see things a certain way, we all do. But if you have no basis other than that, then you fail. Here you have failed miserably, and resorted to ad hominem in the process, something you claim to deplore, at least in others.

But thanks for the well wishes, and the same for you, before and after you finally awake to the truth.

 

“Several cardiology societies have also highlighted the cardiac considerations for using these drugs in patients with Covid-19, including a summary coauthored by the presidents of the American College of Cardiology, the American Heart Association, and the Heart Rhythm Society. The authors stressed that “hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin have been touted for potential prophylaxis or treatment for Covid-19; both drugs are listed as definite causes of torsades de pointes” and increase in the risk of other arrhythmia and sudden death.

from Cardiology News, “FDA limits use of hydrochloroquine for Covid-19 to hospitals, trials” by Mitchel L. Zoler from the FDA
(Circulation. 2020 Apl 8. doi 10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.120.047521)

 

You're going to see a lot of posturing and scrambling by very guilty people. But make no mistake this is a scandal. The safety of HCQ is renowned by doctors using it for decades. The recent fear are warnings are all political.

The thought that the President's doctor would prescribe it if it were dangerous is beyond silly. Governors blocking doctors from prescribing it to desperate patients is beyond evil.

 

Exactly. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the shenanigans at play. There is one reason and one only this is now considered a dangerous life-threatening drug.