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Poll: Majority of Americans say they endorse opening of House impeachment inquiry of Trump

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by KenH, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. KenH

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    Poll: H*illary Cl*nton beats Tr*mp by 12 points to win Pres*dency.

    Peace to you
     
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    That is not accurate. The national average at election day showed Clinton up by 2%, which is what happened in the voting. It is true that Trump won the land vote(which is a significant portion of the Electoral College), but Clinton won the most votes from people. A major threat to the future of the American experiment is if Republicans keep losing the national vote but win the Electoral College, as they have 2 of the last 3 times they have won. The GOP has not won a majority of the popular vote for president since 1988. A continued mismatch between the popular vote winner and the Electoral College vote winner is not sustainable for our governmental system to remain viable in this country.
     
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    We will see most of these polls have shown up as having over sampled dems
     
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    Do you have proof from a reliable news source?
     
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    So now we blame the founding fathers. Desperate much?
     
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    It is not their fault that they did not anticipate such an uneven spread of the population across the various states, nor that they did not anticipate that there would eventually be two such partisan parties with the accompanying tribalism, nor that they did not anticipate that the legislative would give away so much of its power to the executive branch(although Patrick Henry did pretty well nail it in his opposition to ratifying the Constitution). If the executive branch was still constrained by the Constitution as intended, then who is president wouldn’t matter anywhere nearly as much as it does nowadays.
     
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    That’s hogwash. If you were truly concerned about executive branch ceding it’s power to Congress you would be criticizing the people who did it.
     
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    Yep Trump did nothing wrong.
     
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    The people who did it are we the people of the United States. The leaders of our country did come from outer space. They come from us - our families, our churches, our schools, our businesses. The blame lies with us. Deflecting didn’t work for Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and it doesn’t work for us today.
     
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    Said the guy who just blamed the eIectoal college.I did not vote for Obama. You did. You now have a chance to undo that.
     
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    I’m old but I wasn't around when the last constitutionally sound president, Grover Cleveland, was elected to the presidency.
     
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    Here's what I found when I clicked on the link inside the link that gave the details of the questions and the sampling.

    October 6, 2019
    Phone interviews - 1,007 people - random sampling nationally
    Non-Republicans - 75% [30% Dems; 44% Ind.; 1% Other]
    Republicans - 25%

    There were other dates that I did not know what they were for as they were in the spring of this year and way back into 2018.
     
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    My vote is Jefferson. And I very much agree that too much rides on who is president. Right now you have each side fighting to get their person in because they are so afraid of what the other one is going to do and we were never meant to give that much power to the president Seriously that is what confuses me so much about your posts.
     
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    Pretty well spot on as to how the American people line up politically between the two major parties and independents. Thanks for sharing, Scarlett O.
     
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    Pretty well spot on as to how the American people line up politically between the two major parties and independents. Thanks for sharing, Scarlett O.
     
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    That is because I am greatly conflicted between the way things are and the way I wish things were. I would love to be able to support a return to a federal government properly restrained by the federal government. However, that horse left the barn decades ago and the barn has been burned down since. I am not opposed to government programs but the vast majority were to be handled by the states so that we could learn what worked and what didn’t without harming the entire country when a program failed.
     
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    Yet you vote to empower the feds every chance you get.

    But your impugning the entire voting bloc while chiding us to stay out of politics in other threads is laughably two faced.
     
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    To quote myself from that thread:

    “And a case can be made, not that I fully agree with it, that Christians should not be involved in politics at all.” (emphasis mine)
     
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    The various votes I have cast for Libertarians throughout the years would belie your claim of “every chance”.
     
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