Paul was in training as a member of the Sanhedrin. It was required to be married, as per OT. Yet, even so, the scripture doesn't say directly whether Paul was married or not married at the beginning, only that he seemed to be not married by the end, but did make some very specific statements about the requirements of Bishops/Elders and Deacons:
1Ti_3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
1Ti 3:8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
1Ti 3:11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
1Ti 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Tit_1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
In fact, this pattern is seen from the beginning with Adam. Adam was married, then having children, as his church. This goes for Abraham, Moses, David, etc. They were all married. Much more can be said on this, but simply consider the pattern that God gave in all of them.
Also, Paul was not a "Bishop" or "Deacon", but was a travelling Apostle. Paul also stated:
1Co_9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
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Roman Catholicism, follows the pattern of the great apostate, Lucifer/satan, in that he desired to be joined unto none but himself (spiritually speaking), thus remaining single forever, even leaving his own office/estate to seek his own way (anti christos) apart from God's way, and so too then does the Papal heirarchy of 'bishops' (vicarivs christi), even going so far as to claim the same prerogative of God (belonging to God alone), namely that of infallibility (for satan refuses to admit his errors).
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This does not mean the structure cannot work, it just means it is not found in scripture.
You are correct, we do not follow a non-biblical government system as your church follows.
The first is a response to neighbors. The second is a response to self-preservation against bandits, thieves and marauders. Context is a really important thing, Adonia.
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God gets his justice first.
If a thief steals your car and wrecks it, or a criminal paralyzes you. What is the priority? That you get your car back? walk again? or that we the criminals suffer for the sake of sadism?
God not only recompenses but gives extra in Justice.
Do we all deserve hell? GOD DECLARED HIS JUDGEMENT with JESUS CHRIST.
Do we all deserve hell is A JUDGEMENT not a DISCERNMENT. We are not allowed to Judge anyone even ourselves
And before we bother with a "punishment" of a criminal, The punishment needs to fit the crime and Victim need their justice first.
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It doesn't matter if I am saved or not. Even if I am damned I will trust God with it.
You talk a good game, but your walk could use a step or two.
You need to take your mind off selfish desires of reward and consequences, understand the big picture of what is the highest priority for God.
You don't like it when people insist what you believe? Join the club. We don't believe salvation by works.
Till then: You preach God worships SATAN. You believe God bends over and kisses the Devils toes.
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20 I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
You have quoted Scripture, but you are a false prophet.
Furthermore, the Apostle of the Lord, warned the believers, saying unto them: " Beloved, believe not every spirit, but TRY the spirits whether they are of God: because many FALSE PROPHETS are gone out into the world. 1John 4:v.1
What you are doing is the same Satan did with JESUS in the temptation: Matt.4:v.6 - And Satan said unto JESUS, speaking of the Scriptures : "6 Satan said unto JESUS: "If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. - Psalms 91:v.11-12
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Do you realize that such a control over a person is what legalists do to their followers? Islam does it to their followers. Mormonism does it to their followers. Jehovah's Witness does it to their followers. Cults do it to their followers. -
Actually the CROSS made by Satan to kill JESUS is a TROPHY of the Devil, IS A TROPHY that the Devil carries with him as if to say: I killed the mighty son of God.
Eucharist is a ceremonial invented by the Devil to commemorate and rejoice for his greatest work, for his greatest feat, to murder JESUS on the CROSS he manufactured for this purpose.
Cross is a CURSE, wherever there is a cross, even hanging around people's necks, it means that the place or the persons under a cross, all still remain under the CURSE, like the temples of the Roman Catholic Church , everything and everyone is still UNDER THE CURSE OF THE CROSS made by the Devil. They are still CURSED by JESUS and condemned to eternal perdition. Revelation 19:v.19-21 -
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JESUS has already CURSED by His own MOUTH and by written all people that are at his left hand, and the Papacy, and the Roman Catholic Church with all his devilish and monstruous structures, and all his followers, ALL ARE CURSED, YES, THEY ALL ARE CURSED, and destined to the hell's fire.
The MONSTRUOUS structures SATAN has built and established in whole Earth through the Papacy, in Europe, and Asia, and Africa, and Oceania(Australia), and North America, and Central America, and South America, since the beginning of the Church of the Lord, ALL ARE CURSED BY JESUS. By the way, JESUS is sit on His Throne to Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ.
YEAH, all the MONSTRUOUS structures that SATAN has built and established in whole Earth through the Papacy, in these 7 REGIONS of the Planet, as Europe, and Asia, and Africa, and Oceania(Australia), and North America, and Central America, and South America,and it since the beginning of the Church of the Lord, YEAH, ALL THE PAPACY's MONSTRUOUS STRUCTURES ARE CURSED BY JESUS, and condemned to ETERNAL perdition into the hell's FIRE. -
REVELATION 13
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the NAME of blasphemy.
2 And the Beast which I saw... the Dragon gave him his Power, and his Seat, and great Authority.
3 And I saw one of his (7) heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the Beast.
4 And they (the followers of the Beast of sea-the Papacy) worshipped the Dragon which gave power unto the Beast: and they worshipped the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make War with him?
Who is able to make War with the Beast of sea? The answer is in Revelation 19:v.11
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Hebrews 13
1Let love of the brethren continue. 2Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it.
1 Corinthians 4
3But to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. 4For I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord. 5Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God. -
1 Corinthians 13
3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
I'm not looking for assurance against God, God is my assurance itself. Don't need leverage over God.
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