Post Office + unions = millions for idleness

Boy, you'll do anything to dodge a question.

Again, are you saying that, if a gossip magazine prints something, then we should accept it as truth. Yes, or no?

That's true. If a valid source says it, then it's not gossip. Please cite a valid source.

You might want to read the OP yourself. The Cato Institute never once validates the Federal Times claim. In fact, it you go to the Cato institute website, you cannot find anything remotely hinting to a verification of what the Federal Times is reporting.

 

Now you're dancing. First you try the "ad hominem" claim, and when you can't make that stick, you try the "liberal" claim, and when you can't make that stick, now you're trying the "oh, uh, Cato was mentioned, yeah that it, they're the source" dance.

The "one paragraph" in question is the one place that makes the claim of paid idleness, which you yourself saw fit to include in the OP title.

The De Haven from Cato Institute does not make any claim of "paid idleness". He only reports on the financial and union woes of the Postal Service. Given that he's a financial analyst, that's all he'd be commenting on.

The OP is a typical yellow journalism trick. It takes a sensationalised or fabricated claim, and wraps it in supportable facts to give the story a ring of validity.

Nice try, but unrighteous witch hunting won't work. Everyone on the BB knows that you call people liberals whenever you can't defend yourself or are backed into a corner. When you're done whining about them liberals, you're welcome to continue engaging in an adult converstion.

 

Nothing Cato's De Haven says valdidates what the Federal Times says. And just because you keep calling it an ad hominem doesn't make it true. Likewise, just because you deny that you use ad hominems frequently doesn't mean you don't use them.

So, according to you, if the National Enquirer has a report that says "Bigfoot is a Space Alien", we shoudl believe it unless we can prove it's not true. The fact that they're a gossip rag doesn't mean anything.

Clearly, you don't who what gossip is. If a gossiper said it, and you can't verify it, it's gossip. The OP claim can be found no where else except the Federal Times. That makes it gossip.

 

Read it again. None of DeHaven's quotes address it. The author of the story waeves DeHaven's qquotes with the Federal Times story to give the reader the impression.

You really should practice what you require of others.

Even a broken clock will tell the right time twice a day. That doesn't change the fact that it's a broken clock.

 

See prior post. You can stop ruffling your feathers now. None of DeHaven's quotes refer to "idle" persons.

 

DeHaven isn't referring to any idle emyployees. The author of the story is weaving his quotes around the Federal Times source story.

 

Uh, you need to learn what a quote is. That's not a quote.

 

Very funny, considering your'e the one who's dancing.

 

I have done a little looking around on the internet and what I gather is that when there are no customers lined up in the post office one or more of the counter employees leaves the counter and goes to the "standby room" and is logged in the records as being on "standby time".

When a line of customers starts to grow an employee comes from the standby room to the front counter to wait on customers.

The post office is recording "standby time" for purposes of projections for downsizing the workforce.

The postal employees don't like being reported as on standby time because they are worried about the union workforce being reduced at the next contract date.

I find the above to be credible based on my own experience at the post office. When I walk into our local post office if the one person working at the counter is busy with a customer another worker instanly shows up.

When I am being waited on at the counter if another customer leaves and there are no other customers in line the other worker instantly leaves the counter area.

I personally doubt that there are postal workers that are paid to simply sit all day in a standby room while other employees are working and customers are waiting.