Pre-Mil Fallacy

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  1. Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    Please explain.
     
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    The idea that Christ will return with a temporal kingdom and re-establish the Temple cultus and Jewish nation is a fallcious idea. There are a number of anti-gospel notions in the scenario, but the rebuilding of the Jewish temple is the most serious.
     
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    Ok, it sounds like you are talking about a specific flavor of pre-mil theology. Do you believe in the 1,000 reign? And when does that occur? What is your position?
     
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    My position is that the Millennium is representative of the New Testament of Christ manifest in the earth. It's the 'reign' of the church. We have the authority to go into all nations and teach them to obey our Lord, because the nations are His.
     
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    And I just don't see that as viable in Scripture.
     
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    Amillenniumism is a fallacy according to dispensationalists, and the Millennium dispensation is a fallacy according to Amillennists. Satan uses end times debate to keep our focus off of evangelism.
     
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    Evangelism comes from Knowing Jesus is Coming any second.

    There is, then, no amount of various 'second', or 'third', up to seven extra times a 'sinner' has an opportunity to 'be Saved', within all the garbage Satan uses to distract.

    All other references to a 'mill'-situation or some other are eliminated by The Seven Parallel Sections of Revelation, which incapsulate one another's Massage, in different depths, while COVERING the SAME TIME PERIOD.

    Once that 'scheme' of Scripture Organization is found, the others, such as, "Reading Revelation from Cpater to Chapter", chronologically, CAN LEAD NOWHERE THAT IS 'OF GOD'.
     
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    Hiding truth in a verbal salad is the stock and trade of deceivers.

    Amillennialism is a fallacy according to dispensationalists, and the literal Millennial kingdom dispensation is a fallacy according to Amillennists. Satan uses end times debate to keep our focus off of evangelism.
     
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    Post or A Mil then?
     
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    The OT Prophets foretold a Messianic Age, and do not see how in that right now!
     
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    And the NT mentions a specific 1,000 years.....
     
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    Cannot be the Eternal State, and will be a time when just Jesus is Lord over the earth, no other religions and isms!
     
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    What is less tenable is the idea that Christ's kingdom is of this world.

    What year is this?

    It's 2021.

    Two thousand and twenty-one years from what?

    The Advent of the Messiah.

    Who reckons the date from that event?

    The whole world.

    It is the Anno Domini, the Year of our Lord.
     
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    It is not though as of yet His Ruling Age!
     
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    The 1,000 years are a specific period of time when Christ will rule over the earth, this is not his final rule or final kingdom as there is a battle to follow.
     
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    What do you mean by Eternal State? What are you referring to?
     
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    One chapter of one apocalyptic book gushing with metaphor and allegory mentions a Millennium.
     
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    The time at end of Revelation, when Jesus turns his Kingdom unto the Father!
     
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    Its still in there!
     
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    What is the nature of that rule?