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Redemption Accomplished and Applied by John Murray
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Predestination
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Jun 22, 2020.
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14 whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. " ( 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 )
His elect ( the whosoever believeth ) are chosen to salvation through two things, Barry...
Sanctification of the spirit and belief of the truth.
" Blessed [is the man whom] thou choosest, and causest to approach [unto thee, that] he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, [even] of thy holy temple." ( Psalms 65:4 )
David is confessing here that the man who is chosen and caused to approach God is blessed.
There is a such thing as election ( being chosen ) to salvation, and respectfully, I'm not sure how you see that the Bible is unclear about it.
This is my final reply in this thread.
I wish you well, sir, and may God bless you in your continued studies of His word -
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I posed a real life situation to members of an orthodox Presbyterian church asking their opinion of an infant who dies prior to being brought into their so called church. Where is the child now? The parents were neither married, members of the church, practicing Christians. Guess what the answer was.
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Barry Johnson Well-Known Member
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Mathew 13 .Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. This is something the Old testament knew had to happen . As for all those many years of sacrificing clearly demonstrates the sins were not redeemed they were only covered . So heres many people finally having there sins dealt with. But Jesus did more than deal with all those sins from Adam to the cross. He died and literally broke down the middle wall of separation and the barrier between man and God . Everything was dealt with on the cross. Sin in all capacities . Past . present and future sins paid for. Ok so the Calminian thinks " oh so everyone must get saved then ? " why would you think that? We are saved by ' his life " THE RESURECTION " And by RECIEVING THE ATONEMENT " no one receives the Atonement after the cross until they meet the requirement to access the grace through faith...Faith is how the Atonement is recieved . So no blood was wasted . There is no longer any barrier . Jesus dealt with EVERYTHING on your behalf. but we need to access this by faith . It's not automatic . -
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