President Trump Releases Video From Hospital

Looks and sounds pretty good. Continued prayers for his and Melania’s full recovery.

 

Very extemporaneous, his mind is sharp. Not like slothful Biden losing his mind while he talks. Like his video about his hairy legs, and learning about roaches, the little black children who liked to sit on his lap.

 

Can we not simply be thankful that so far the president is doing well in this very serious situation without disparaging others? After all, this is billed as a Christian message board.

 

Thanks KenH, I had seen what turns out to be an edited, shortened, clip, but never the above full clip.

 

You are not wise to recognize how devastating Biden as POTUS would be. There is nothing worthwhile about the guy politically as a leader unless you want what he is selling and approves of, a list of evil things that most christians recognize as evil.

 

This thread is about the hopeful recovery of the president and first lady of the United States. Can you not let it be just about that? Please?

 

Ok, you mean well wishing like this then?
'Selma' Director Ava DuVernay to Trump: Get Well You Disgraceful Lying White Supremacist So We Can Vote You Out

 

As your brother in Christ I am asking you to please stop posting political/election stuff on this thread.

 

Ken, I can appreciate your thoughts & feeling re: this topic, but you must realize that the "good" in man will not be conquered unless the "evil" is destroyed, or at least suppressed. We are not at this stage politically today, and never will be until "evil" is recognized for what it is and "good is championed.
Evil is not diminished by ignoring it!
This is one of the policies of this board that I do not agree with (the 30 day rule) simply because NOTHING but praises are at a funeral, and every dead person is praised to high heaven unless he happens to be a Stalin or Hitler etc.
Like I said, I don't agree with it, but I will abide by it.
I fully believe that one of the biggest reasons we are in the shape we are today is because conservatives have taken the "high road" for so long and the false concept that Christians "should not be in politics because -------"
I will take this opportunity to recommend watching "Jonathan Cahn -The return" on youtube for an excellent sermon on the state of the nation & a comparison of modern USA with old Israel. VERY POWERFUL and dead on target!!!! This was done at the Franklin Graham "march" a few days ago, so some may have heard it live, but it is very timely!!!
At any rate, I appreciate your sentiments Ken, and I DO wish reality could be as you want, but it ain't.

 

Actually, there is a solid case that can be made for Christians to stay out of worldly politics:

David Lipscomb quoting B.U. Watkins in Lipscomb’s book, On Civil Government: Its Origin, Mission, and Destiny, and the Christian's Relation to It.

“One of the signs of the great Apostacy, was the union of Church and State. Its chosen symbol was a woman upon the back of a seven headed and ten horned beast. It is almost uniformly admitted, among American Protestants, that this is a well chosen symbol to represent the absurd, and unnatural union of Church and State. It is generally conceded, that the woman represents the Church, and the beast the old Roman civil government. This being true, it would appear far more natural for her to be riding the beast, than for him to have his locomotion promoted by the help of the woman! When the State comes forward and proffers its assistance, and the Church voluntarily accepts of such help, it might be a question, which would be the most to blame; the Church for accepting, or the State for offering such assistance. But when the Church gives, unasked, her power to the beast, no excuse can reasonably be pleaded. If the State supporting the Church, is called an adulterous union, I am unable to see, why the union is not equally intimate, and criminal, when the Church supports the State, by participating in all its responsibilities. When the Church offers her fellowship, and co-operation in framing all the laws of the land, and in choosing its judicial and executive officers - when even her members refuse not to become legislators, and are even forward to fill all the offices of human governments, I cannot see, but the relation between church and State, is as intimate as ever, and just as illegal. Ezekiel chided the ancient Hebrews for seeking such union with the nations; and he compares Israel to a woman of the lowest infamy. It is exceedingly painful to me, to see how aptly these symbols of John and Ezekiel apply to modern professors. But how greatly would I rejoice, if the reformation of the 19th century would arise and put on her beautiful garments, and show herself to be the true spouse of Christ. May the good Lord grant that this noble brotherhood, that I so dearly love, may soon see the whole truth! But here, I am met with the objection, that these institutions are ordained of God. And he who resists them resists an ordinance of God, and shall receive punishment. Let me here pause, and remark, that I would sooner be understood as taking the popular view of this passage, rather than appear to countenance any kind of war. Nothing is further from my intention. But the fact of civil government being ordained of God, is no proof of Divine approbation. So long as it can be clearly shown that he has ordained that one sinner should punish another, so long as we read in Isaiah, that Cyrus was sent against Babylon, although he knew not God, so long as we find it not difficult to admit the application of the above passage, to civil government, whether such be its meaning or not. To make the admission saves much time, and leaves the argument much more compact. Something is gained and nothing lost by granting all we can to our opponents. That God can overrule sin, without being responsible for its commission, and without having any complicity with it, is a thing so plain, that to turn aside to explain it would almost be an insult to those for whom these columns are written. Let a hint suffice. Pharaoh was raised up by God for a certain purpose, although his behavior was far from being approved of God. With a few axioms I will close this article. Axiom 1st, No man has the right of making laws for his own government. For such a right would include the double absurdity of making him independent of God, and responsible only to himself! Axiom 2nd. A republican government is one in which power is thought to be delegated by the people to their rulers, in their act of voting. Axiom 3rd. But a man cannot delegate a power he himself does not possess. Hence, INFERENCE 1st. As man has no inherent legislative power, he cannot transfer it to another. Hence, INFERENCE 2nd. Voting is therefore a deception, and a sham, making a deceiver of him, who votes, and a dupe of him who fancies himself the recipient of delegated power.”

 

And, let me add, I would love to avoid even thinking about politics, but I caught the politics bug in 1964 and I find it to be a tough malady to shake.

 

Obliterated by one verse

James 17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.

 

Nope. Not if one considers political participation to be contrary to God’s will.

“But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.” - Romans‬ ‭14:23‬ ‭ESV‬‬

 

Irrational, in light of Romans 13. It would be an indictment on God who created governments.

 

Nope. Just because you disagree with a point of view does not mean it is irrational.

 

Nope. After man rejected God’s government in the Garden of Eden, there was still a need for authorities to keep some amount of check on just how bad wickedness would become until Jesus establishes the new heavens and earth. God can accomplish this by using worldlings as we see throughout the Bible.

You cannot make a Biblical case that a Christian must vote(much less vote the way you think they should) in order to be saved.

 

You are right. It's not irrational just because you disagree with me. But it is irrational. And unbiblical.

 

Nope.

Tell you what, prove that voting is essential to salvation and I will agree you are correct.

 

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