Indeed there are scores who have adopted unwanted children. In spite of your opinion that nobody cares about the born many are adopted and loved as if they were natural born children. I've never read where OR has called adoptive parents slaughterers of the unborn. I believe he reserves that title for those that actually slaughter them or those that actively support those that do.
Rescue? From you? :laugh: Stop.
Do you think before you type or does this stuff just flow from your fingertips without cognition? Being snide does not make a strong argument. Neither does talking out of both side of your mouth.
You insist pro-life people don't care about the unwanted after they are born. OR adopted TWO of them. I have a 5 year-old that was not born to us standing at my elbow wanting to listen to The Best of Chicago instead of me replying to you. He is obviously wiser then us both. You were immediately dismissive of adoptive parents and lied about OR calling them slaughterers.
Now you have told me to shut up because I don't believe an unborn child can willfully and actively sin. They cannot willfully and actively breathe outside the womb how could they possibly willfully and actively sin? To clarify my statement I believe this to be a separate issue from a sin nature.
Why such a low view of human life inside the womb?
Psalms 139:13-16 NAS77
13 For Thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst weave me in my mother's womb.
14 I will give thanks to Thee, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Thy works, And my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from Thee, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth.
16 Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Thy book they were all written, The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them.
I'm done here but not because you have won the day with your great persuasive skills. I have to weigh the time I will spend arguing with you against the time spent with this child that you insist I hate. In the grand scheme of things, there is much more to be gained listening to 25 or 6 to 4 over and over with the child you think I despise than there is answering your folly.
Prolife myth
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by targus, Apr 13, 2015.
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padredurand Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I did not answer Zaac's question about "all" directly because I knew I would get the same response you did. I do agree with your response and I presented Scripture where God indicates the unborn child does neither good or evil. I would also add that it is truly remarkable what the Neonatal ICU's are able to do for premature children now.
I confess that I am not always rational when it comes to abortion. When I consider what some in the medical profession do to an unborn child I am either reduced to the point of tears or become angry, usually angry. Many in the medical profession will work so hard to save lives and others will readily destroy them.
Generally when I respond on forums as this one it is when I am angry. As far as I am concerned this slaughter of the unborn child should never be a point of contention between followers of Jesus Christ. But sadly it is!
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Just read the above post. Wonderfully said padre! God gifts some folks with the gift of words more so than others! And would that all take the passage of Scripture you presented to heart! -
Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
This "pro-life for the living" is the stupidest hill anyone ever picked to die on. The most ignorant self-congratulatory false witness that's ever been bared against anyone.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
So by your post you admit that you know you are spreading lies when you adopt Crabtownboy's "pro-life for the living" baloney.
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padredurand Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The only comprehension problem I have is reading your replies that are barely more than half-truth and hyperbole. Show me one place where someone has called an adoptive parent a slaughterer. You've said OR has said it repeatedly so one should not be hard to find.
You said OR was afraid to answer your question about ALL. He replied and you went babbling about how he wouldn't or couldn't and claimed your pseudo-victory.
I'm going to work, now, to support that little boy I hate and the slaughtering woman I married. Take your time to think of something glib so you can feel you've slayed another dragon in your petty universe. -
Can anyone find any evidence of the validity of this notion?
I tried and came up empty.
I did find that adoption is somewhat linked to income with people above the poverty level adopting at rates much higher than people below the poverty level.
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I know that there are plenty of folks who care about the babies being killed everyday. But the ridiculously funky and nasty attitudes about helping the living doesn't get excused because you adopt a kid or two, which I do applaud.
SO you rest assured. When people are making hypocritical comments about killing the unborn, but every stupid word that they type is against extending a hand to those outside the womb, it'll be a cold day in hell that I'll cease to having some talking points for ya.:smilewinkgrin:
So again, save your intercessory swooping in to save the day. He can speak for himself.
But because you OBVIOUSLY have a comprehension problem, let me say it for you again. If the unborn babies aren't part of the ALL who have sinned, you, OldRegular and anyone else who accuses anyone of slaughtering a BABY or a LIFE need to sit down and be quiet and stop contradicting yourselves because you look foolish.
My petty universe must sit next to your glib, self-righteous, "I gotta save the day" universe. Ta ta.:wavey:
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It is beyond stupid to claim to be concerned about the life of the unborn and then turn around and not include them in the ALL that God says have sinned as though they aren't part of those who are alive and included in the ALL.
Why on earth would the Body of Christ give pro-abortionists more ammunition for why the unborn shouldn't be considered a life.
God has never said we had to have an understanding for His ways. But my goodness, folks need to get a clue. Our lack of understanding for how something happens doesn't mean it doesn't happen if God says it's so. -
Sin nature is different then sinning. Babies who die before age of accountability (God knows) will be saved.
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There is one lady in the town I live who has three lovely, and very happy, young oriental children, perhaps from the same family. They are like stair steps! -
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http://creatingafamily.org/adoption-category/children-adopted-year/
A very sad statistic however is that in 1973 adoptions happened at a rate of 9% of those born and now it's down to 1% of those born. I find it very likely the 8% are now accounted for by abortions.
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