Let me summarise the typical thread (of many) on this topic:
words
people
Words
People
WORDS
PEOPLE
WORDS!
PEOPLE!
WORDS!
PEOPLE!
WORDS!
PEOPLE!
WORDS!
PEOPLE!
See how much it accomplishes?
Psalm 12:7
Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Keith M, Jul 19, 2007.
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For those who continue to insist Ps. 12:7 refers to the preservation of words instead of the preservation of the faithful (people), you can learn a lot from the web page
http://www.kjvonly.org/james/may_great_inconsistency.htm
Pay special attention to the facts about preservation. Of course if you approach the article with the preconceived notion that Ps. 12:7 refers to the preservation of words and that it cannot possibly refer to its actual subject, people, then you may not actually learn anything. If you already accept the truth or if you approach the article with a mind willing to learn the truth, then you should appreciate the article. No matter which way you approach it, the article is full of truth, even if it isn't a quick read. -
"For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times." - Psalm 12: 5,7,6
However, here's what the Bible says without bending, twisting or shaping...
"For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him. The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." - Psalm 12:5-7
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Let's face it, sportzz fanzz! each one is gonna believe what he/she choosesta believe. I believe 'people' by the context of the whole Psalm & the opinions of an overwhelming majority of the translators.
For the umpteenth time, I don't believe anyone here disputes that God has preserved His word....but Psalm 12:7 is NOT a verse which affirms it.
I notice that almost all those who believe 'words' are KJVO. Problem is, if it WERE about words, it wouldn't help their cause a bit, as there's no language nor version even hinted at in V7, in Psalm 12, or anywhere else within Scripture. -
Uh, Rufus, there you go again, applying the rules of English grammar to something that was written in Hebrew! When will you realize the two languages are different and that different rules of grammar apply? It's really a simple and truthful concept, Rufus, when you get right down to it! Your continued denial still doesn't make your error correct. The idea that Ps. 12:7 refers to words was never correct and it will never be correct since the Psalm wasn't written in English. Even the tranaslators of the 1611 KJV (the original KJV) knew this - that's why they placed a marginal note indicating the true meaning of the verse right there for everyone to see. It's a shame this marginal note has not been included in all the KJVs!
Sorry you're having such a hard time comprehending the truth, Rufus!
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I believe the Lord would be more pleased if there were more grace displayed, and a lot less emotion. Here is some light (without all the heat)--
I think it is obvious to all readers that both 'sides' want the interpretation to support their position more than they want to understand each other. -
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"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" - 2 Timothy 3:16
Thus, using a marginal note as an argument for why a verse doesn't say what it says, places non-inspired words above God inspired words. -
Rufus, please clear some space so I may send you a private message. Thanks!
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These TR/KJV groups said, "WORDS!!" -
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Wrong, wrong, wrong.
I am TR/KJV and I say "PEOPLE" and there are MANY more like me. -
I am still dizzy, but I thought this would be an appropirate place to place my 999th post.
PEOPLE!
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