Questions we’re not suppose to ask

Amen, Brother C4K -- Preach it!

A loch full of logic cannot quinch a firey brand of illogic :-((

) --- Ed's smiley face showing both chins

 

I have learned that lesson with this thread, Ed. It took God tapping me on the shoulder and showing me that I was only pounding my head against a brick wall and raising my blood pressure. Instead of posting I am praying, as that will have much more effect than words that I may type.

 

Amen. I had to take my signature line to heart

 

Brother,

What specific doctrine do you believe is effected by the MV's? I am asking this in all sincerity.

 

Me three, but it isn't easy keeping my gun in the holster. :laugh:

 

ah...check this my bother......



Philippians 2 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)

Philippians 2
Christian Humility
1 If then there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, (A) if any fellowship with the Spirit, (B) if any affection and mercy, (C) 2 fulfill my joy by thinking the same way, (D) having the same love, (E) sharing the same feelings, focusing on one (F) goal. 3 Do nothing out of rivalry (G) or conceit, (H) but in humility (I) consider others as more important (J) than yourselves. 4 Everyone should look out not [only] for his own interests, (K) but also for the interests of others. (L)


Christ's Humility and Exaltation
5 Make your own attitude that of Christ Jesus,
6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God (M)

as something to be used for His own advantage. [a]

7 Instead He emptied Himself (N) by assuming the form of a slave, (O)

taking on the likeness of men. (P)

And when He had come as a man in His external form,

8 He humbled Himself by becoming obedient

to the point of death—even to death on a cross. (Q)

9 For this reason God also highly exalted Him (R)

and gave Him the name that is above every name,

10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow—

of those who are in heaven (S) and on earth and under the earth (T) —

11 and every tongue (U) should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,

to the glory (V) of God the Father.



Lights in the World
12 So then, my dear friends, (W) just as you have always obeyed, (X) not only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God who is working in you, [enabling you] both to will and to act for His good purpose. 14 Do everything without grumbling (Y) and arguing, (Z) 15 so that you may be blameless (AA) and pure, (AB) children of God who are faultless (AC) in a crooked (AD) and perverted (AE) generation, (AF) among whom you shine like stars in the world. 16 Hold firmly the message (AG) of life. Then I can boast (AH) in the day of Christ (AI) that I didn't run in vain or labor for nothing. 17 But even if I am poured out (AJ) as a drink offering (AK) on the sacrifice and service of your faith, I am glad and rejoice with all of you. 18 In the same way you also should rejoice and share your joy with me.


Timothy and Epaphroditus
19 Now I hope in the Lord Jesus (AL) to send Timothy (AM) to you soon so that I also may be encouraged when I hear news about you. 20 For I have no one else like-minded who will genuinely care about your interests; 21 all seek their own interests, (AN) not those of Jesus Christ. (AO) 22 But you know his proven character, because he has served with me in the gospel ministry like a son with a father. 23 Therefore, I hope to send him as soon as I see how things go with me. 24 And I am convinced in the Lord that I myself will also come quickly. (AP)
25 But I considered it necessary to send you Epaphroditus (AQ) —my brother, co-worker, and fellow soldier, as well as your messenger and minister to my need (AR) — 26 since he has been longing for all of you and was distressed because you heard that he was sick. 27 Indeed, he was so sick that he nearly died. However, God had mercy on him, and not only on him but also on me, so that I would not have one grief on top of another. 28 For this reason, I am very eager to send him so that you may rejoice when you see him again and I may be less anxious. 29 Therefore, welcome him in the Lord with all joy and hold men like him in honor, 30 because he came close to death for the work (AS) of Christ, risking his life to make up what was lacking in your ministry to me.


Colossians 1 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)

Colossians 1
Greeting
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by God's will, (A) and Timothy (B) our [a] brother:
2 To the saints and faithful brothers in Christ in Colossae.

Grace to you and peace from God our Father.



Thanksgiving
3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 4 for we have heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love you have for all the saints 5 because of the hope reserved for you in heaven. You have already heard about [this hope] in the message of truth, (C) 6 the gospel that has come to you. It is bearing fruit (D) and growing all over the world, (E) just as it has among you since the day you heard it and recognized God's grace (F) in the truth. (G) [c] 7 You learned this from Epaphras, (H) our much loved fellow slave. He is a faithful minister of the Messiah (I) on your [d] behalf, 8 and he has told us about your love in the Spirit. (J)


Prayer for Spiritual Growth
9 For this reason also, since the day we heard this, we haven't stopped praying for you. We are asking (K) that you may be filled with the knowledge (L) of His will (M) in all wisdom and spiritual understanding, 10 so that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing [to Him], bearing fruit in every good work (N) and growing in the knowledge of God. (O) 11 May you be strengthened (P) with all power, (Q) according to His glorious (R) might, for all endurance and patience, with joy 12 giving thanks to the Father, who has enabled you [e] to share in the saints' [f] inheritance in the light. (S) 13 He has rescued (T) us from the domain of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom (U) of the Son (V) He loves, (W) 14 in whom we have redemption, [g] the forgiveness of sins.


The Centrality of Christ
15 He is the image of the invisible God, (X)
the firstborn over all creation; (Y) [h]

16 because by Him everything was created, (Z)

in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible,

whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—

all things have been created through Him and for Him. (AA)

17 He is before all things, (AB) and by Him all things (AC) hold together.

18 He is also the head of the body, the church;

He is the beginning, (AD) the firstborn from the dead, (AE)

so that He might come to have first place in everything.

19 For God was pleased [to have] all His fullness (AF) dwell in Him, (AG)

20 and through Him to reconcile everything to Himself

by making peace (AH) through the blood (AI) of His cross (AJ) —

whether things on earth or things in heaven.

21 And you were once alienated and hostile in mind because of your evil actions. 22 But now He has reconciled you by His physical body [j] through His death, (AK) to present you holy, faultless, (AL) and blameless before Him (AM) — 23 if indeed you remain grounded and steadfast in the faith, (AN) and are not shifted away from the hope (AO) of the gospel that you heard. [This gospel] has been proclaimed in all creation (AP) under heaven, (AQ) and I, Paul, (AR) have become a minister of it.



Paul's Ministry
24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings (AS) for you, and I am completing in my flesh what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for His body, (AT) that is, the church. 25 I have become its minister, according to God's administration that was given to me for you, to make God's message fully known, 26 the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to His saints. 27 God wanted to make known to those among the Gentiles the glorious wealth of this mystery, which is Christ (AU) in you, the hope (AV) of glory. 28 We proclaim Him, warning and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone mature in Christ. 29 I labor for this, striving (AW) with His strength that works powerfully in me.




Sir, with no disrespect I ask if the MV deny the deity of Christ?

 

Would you give me a hot link to the place on the internet where you got this reading (including footnotes) of Phil 2. TY = thank you.

Ah, here we go:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2&version=HCSB

 

I am checking one of my 11 different versions of the KJV to see if the KJV teaches the Doctrine of the Divinity of Christ. Haven't found it yet. Care to show me?

 

Please stop replicating error. The word you guys should be using is 'affected' (with an 'a').

 

Does Biblia Sacra count?

 

That would be in one of the KJVs, show that Phillipians 2 teaches the Doctrine of the Divinity of Christ. I can show the Holy Trinity in HCSB, nKJV, TLB, NASB, NLT and other English Versions.

BTW, a doctrine based on one and only one verse is not much of a doctrine. God repeated the best parts over and over.

Consider the metaphors/similes for Personal Salvation (for which the Sonne of God gave His life):

born again
member of the church
member of the Body of Messiah
redeemed (an O.T. concept of buying back that sold into slavery)
saved from eternal damnation
Child of the King
adopted into the family of God

that is just off the top of my head, there are many more. Our personal salvation was important enough God gave ujp His throne in Heaven to become our personal sacrifice for our personal sin. God keeps talking about it.

 

Hmmm...sad, I guess I won't get my questions answered...

oh, well

 

Do you mean these questions? No, I don't suppose you will receive adequate answers to these from stilllearning.

 

Yep those are the questions.

I will wait with anticipation for our good friend's reply.

 

Bumping up the questions from the above posts, asked twice now, for stilllearning...

 

does this statement in the Epistle Dedicatory count?

it uses capitals for "Your ... Person," which may imply divinity of some sort.

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