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Rep. Lynn Jenkins Calls for 'Great White Hope' to Thwart Obama, Democrats

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  1. FlyForFun

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    This anecdote proves fight promoters are pretty smart.

    :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I don't see the pharse "Great White Hope" used in your story.

    Your stoy does not support your assertion that "Great White Hope" was a mantra.
     
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  3. Crabtownboy

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    I assume you are too young to remember, but the term "great white hope" was a well known phrase when I was a kid and it was known as beginning when Whites were enraged that Jack Johnson beat a white man for the heavy weight championship. The search for a "great white hope" who would recapture the heavy weight championship began. This was long before the play with the same title.

    The play by the same title, "The Great White Hope" explores this and is a fictional account of this event in American History.

    So the history of the term defnitely is racist. The play explores the racist attitude.
     
    #23 Crabtownboy, Aug 28, 2009
  4. Magnetic Poles

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    I won't do all your research for you. That was indeed the phrase used. Before you continue to make foolish assertions, check it out. It is common knowledge, but here is from Wikipedia's entry on Jeffries:

    The media, eager for a "Great White Hope", found a champion for their racism in Jeffries. He said, "I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a Negro."[1]

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    If you want other sources, they are readily available if you just look into it.
     
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  5. targus

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    Whatever the history of the phrase - it does not automatically indicate a racist attitude on the part of Lynn Jenkins.

    As I said some reflexively see racism where it does not exist.

    For example - since abortion has historically occured at higher rates among minorities in the U.S. does that make any politician that supports abortion as a right a racist?

    By extension - does that make anyone who votes for those politicians racist?
     
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  6. Magnetic Poles

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    No, she may just be ignorant. But it does put her judgment at question, as it was at best, a stupid thing to say. This could also be racist, we just don't know. I'd say this is yet another "macaca" moment.

    No, but I am sure it appeals to those constituents who are.
     
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    Some people see racism where it does not exist and exploit it. Some people see conspiracies where that do not exist. Others ignore them where they do exist just as some on this Forum fail to recognize that the democrat party and their leaders are determined to turn this Constitutional Republic into a Socialist "utopia" in thrall to certain elitists in the democrat party. Those on this forum who support the move to Socialism know who they are. Some even try to justify their belief by Scripture.
     
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  8. Magnetic Poles

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    Having trouble staying on topic, are we?
     
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    The larger question is does it make them an abortionist? I say yes!
     
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    No! Actually given that Rep. Jenkins is trying to rally support against the socialist democrats I would say that it is right on topic. I will repeat the OP in case the rarified atmosphere has gotten to you this morning.

     
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    So you think her statement about the "Great White Hope" is appropriate? I am sure your honest answer will be quite revealing about your feelings.
     
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    I have said before that I believe it was metaphorical. If that honest answer determines your opinion of me then so be it.
     
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    OR, the question is do you believe it was appropriate?
     
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    Dumb, most likely.

    People want to be excused for using certain language.

    While the Rep. may not be racist, she sure exhibited lack of sensitivity to others.

    Thus while the term "niggardly" means "cheap, tightwad," it makes sense to avoid such terms for the sake of those who may misunderstand.
     
    #34 FlyForFun, Aug 28, 2009
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    You all know I am as conservative as can be.. and this was a stupid remark, as stupid as the gaffes that Biden makes... and even I make every once in a while.. (rarely... lol)

    She should retract it..

    Listen, I am looking for a great hope... But He was Jewish, and born a little over 2000 yrs ago.. .died, rose again, and IS coming back... so I guess I am looking for the Great Hebrew Hope....

    Until then we have to do the best we can.
     
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    Properly understood I do not get excited about it.

    The uproar is reminiscent of the racist label unfairly applied to Bill Clinton after the SC democrat primary; much ado about nothing.

    The left has played the race card for years and unfortunately it works.
     
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    Yes, racemongers often attempt to pervert language.
    The phrase's origin predates the 1910 prizefight and had nothing to do with bigotry:

    "...his unhappy followers, obstinate not to lose the great white hope that had come to illumine the gloom of the Jewries..."
    Cosmopolitan Magazine 1897
     
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    I voted for Obama because there was a chance he would bring the troops home.
     
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  19. FlyForFun

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    ..and how's that workin' out for ya....?

    :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Well...here you go. You lied, CTB. Sorry to break it to you.
     
    #40 rbell, Aug 28, 2009
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