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Romney is a Flat out Liar, a Fake, and a liberal.

carpro

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From the link: Paul also brought up an example of spending a billion dollars on an embassy in Baghdad. He said, “You consider that defense spending.

Who is the "You" Paul is referring to? That is the link I would like to see.

Why build new military bases - just don't close any more.
What we need to do is to cut the non-military spending in the Defense budget.

It's still a strawman. Paul used it as one and his little 'bots do the same.

Paul is being dishonest about where the money comes form for building embassies. I expect all the paulbots to buy whatever he says, even when they both know better.
 

Salty

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Because numerous bases have been shut down in the U.S., and new ones opened overseas. That is dumb. We are basically providing security for large sections of Europe. and letting them get by scott free. Our soldiers are supposed to defend OUR soil, not French and German soil...

Other then combat zones in the past dozen years, what other countries have we built bases in?

Are you aware of how many US military bases have been closed just in Germany over the past 20 years?
In 1980 EUCOM had about 350,000 military troops + dependents and DAC's. In 1999 troop level was down to less than 120,000. According to old math that is more than a 65% reduction in troops - as well as family members and DAC's.

and what do you mean that foreign nations are getting by scott free. Are you saying that they are not helping to pay cost associated with US troops over there?
 

poncho

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Other then combat zones in the past dozen years, what other countries have we built bases in?

Are you aware of how many US military bases have been closed just in Germany over the past 20 years?
In 1980 EUCOM had about 350,000 military troops + dependents and DAC's. In 1999 troop level was down to less than 120,000. According to old math that is more than a 65% reduction in troops - as well as family members and DAC's.

and what do you mean that foreign nations are getting by scott free. Are you saying that they are not helping to pay cost associated with US troops over there?

Do you have any idea how many "military contractors" aka corporate mercenaries have replaced the troops being reassigned to other areas?


Private contractors employed by the Defense Department in Afghanistan will continue to outnumber the size of the American troop presence, even after President Obama sends 30,000 more soldiers to fight in the war, according to the military’s most recent contractor count.

The latest figure on DOD contractors in the country is a whopping 104,100, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command tells TPM. That number, which is expected to grow, is already greater than the 98,000 U.S. troops that will be in the country after the new deployments.

SOURCE . . .

This is just one accounting in one country! So what's my point? You have to take this into account when making up your figures otherwise your "old math" is worthless.
 

Salty

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Do you have any idea how many "military contractors" aka corporate mercenaries have replaced the troops being reassigned to other areas?


Private contractors employed by the Defense Department in Afghanistan will continue to outnumber the size of the American troop presence, even after President Obama sends 30,000 more soldiers to fight in the war, according to the military’s most recent contractor count.

The latest figure on DOD contractors in the country is a whopping 104,100, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command tells TPM. That number, which is expected to grow, is already greater than the 98,000 U.S. troops that will be in the country after the new deployments.

SOURCE . . .

This is just one accounting in one country! So what's my point? You have to take this into account when making up your figures otherwise your "old math" is worthless.

When you answer my TWO questions, and comment on my statement, I will be glad to answer yours.
 
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Havensdad

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It's still a strawman. Paul used it as one and his little 'bots do the same.

Paul is being dishonest about where the money comes form for building embassies. I expect all the paulbots to buy whatever he says, even when they both know better.

The almost 1 billion dollars to build the embassy in question, came from the International affairs portion of the Defense budget.

Try again.
 

poncho

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Well, he took the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" word as the gospel, even after it was made known to him that they were propagandists in the employ of the Pentagon. Their mission was to lie and destort the truth about the costly and illegal Iraqi intervention. Some people think it's our patriotic duty to put every nation on earth under the international banker and corporito's thumbs or kill everyone in them trying.
 
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webdog

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Hmmm...you may have a point. The man does want to bring our currency policy back to the 1800's, why not the foreign policy as well?

That was my point, he may claim to be a non interventionist, he may even share some common ideals, but what he says regarding our allies and foreign policy do not match. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. The scary thing in the whole matter is to think if we just "go away" and leave those maniacs alone they will just do away with sharia law and their prosyletizing of Islam and its global dominance. I believe in the old saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
 

carpro

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What? Tell me, have you even listened to or READ any of Paul's proposals?

I bet not. I bet you just believe what Fox News and Talk radio TELL you to believe.

Yep.

Paul said he would drastically cut military spending. Are you calling him a liar?
 

DaChaser1

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http://stevedeace.com/news/iowa-politics/two-huge-romney-lies-at-cnn-debate-debunked/

From the article

#1 A fact check done on Romney care, shows that Romney lied. The Massachusetts court is not the one that put abortion into the bill. Romney intentionally included tax payer funded abortion in his Romney Care bill, 3 YEARS AFTER, his so called "Pro-life conversion."

#2 Regarding Gay Marriage:

"Mitt Romney, and Mitt Romney alone, unilaterally, illegally and unconstitutionally authorized the alterations to and issuance of marriage licenses to same sex couples in Massachusetts in violation of at least 8 article of the oldest functioning constitution in the world, the Massachusetts Constitution authored by John Adams."

Mitt Romney is NOT pro-life, and he is a liar and liberal to boot. Another thing he did? He paid 100K dollars to eradicate his record in Massachusetts, to keep people from scrutinizing what he did there... How on EARTH is that even legal??!!


Lesser of 2 Evils here though!
 
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