I have a question. In Hebrews 11:1 the KJV reads;
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen
The NIV reads;
Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
The EVS reads;
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
And the NASB reads;
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
My focus is on the two Greek words "hypostasis" which is translated substance, confidence, and assurance. And the second Greek word "elegchos" translated evidence, assurance, and conviction.
So my question is can someone be saved who is not sure if God is real? I ask this because I actually have a friend who is in this situation. He claims to be a Christian seeks to live as one, but does not attend a church, and claims to be saved and will talk about God and Jesus and living for the Lord and so on.
He was raised in a very strong,legalistic Christian home, Although they are Pentecostal parents, however he is not totally sure that God is real. It seems that he has more of a hope He is real or I think He is real than assurance and that he is going with that hope. He does not battle against the reality but he is unsure about the reality.
So Can this kind of a person really be a born again Christian? Can a person really repent to God Whom they are not sure (positive) is there. Can a person really come to faith (trust) Jesus who they are not sure (positive) is there?
I have absolutely no question of God being real and Jesus coming and paying my price. . In fact I can say like Paul I know (not hope or think) in Whom I believe 2Tim 1:12. So can someone who cannot say I know in Whom I believe really be saved based on Hebrews 11:1?
Salvation question
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Judith, Jul 13, 2015.
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In order to be saved one has to repent of their sins turn to Christ alone. John 14:6 who do you turn to if you do not believe that Christ is who He say's He is.
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However, what is mean by that is that we do recognize that we are sinners and agree that living a life against God is no longer acceptable. We agree that we are no longer going to perform such things as that which Christ was beaten and died for that we may be saved from their penalty.
Understanding that we are sinners and that such behavior is not acceptable to God is not a work. -
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John 12:44 says, "And Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me."
God knows our heart, our innermost convictions and beliefs. He is the one who decides whether our belief meets His requirements, He is the one who credits our faith as righteousness or not.
In Matthew 7 we see folks, like your friend, who engaged in ministry and claimed Jesus as Lord. But Jesus said, I never knew you, meaning their faith was not credited as righteousness and God therefore did not put them spiritually in Christ.
Now I understand my belief in God is based on faith and not on compelling external evidence. But I believe when I die I will go to be present with the Lord, and that assurance of the sure and certain resurrection is rock solid. I am a really simple guy, Jesus loves me this I know, for the Bible tells me so. -
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