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Saturday is the 7th day - the Bible Sabbath

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by BobRyan, Mar 31, 2018.

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  1. I don't know and don't care

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  2. Yes it is - but it does not matter for Christians. Commandments are nailed to the cross

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  3. Yes it is - and Christians should honor it

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  4. Yes it is and it is the only commandment nailed to the cross

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  5. Nobody knows what the days of the week are as mentioned in the Bible - it no longer matters

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  6. It is but it dishonors God and denies the Gospel to keep the Bible Sabbath

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  7. Yes it is - but the Sabbath obligation in the Commandment is transferred to Sunday

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  1. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
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    The referenced scriptures still stand.
     
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    The "shadow Sabbaths" were in fact the ceremonial Sabbaths not the weekly Bible Sabbath - as also
    D.L. Moody,
    R.C. Sproul,
    The Baptist Confession of Faith,
    The Westminster Confession of Faith (and many others) etc would all agree and so they all teach the Bible truth about the continued TEN Commandments as being included in the LAW of God written on the heart.

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    Col 2 is not about "deleting scripture" it is about refuting the efforts of some - to "make stuff up".

    As I said before --- it is Hebrews 10:4-12 where find this regarding the animal sacrifices and offerings "He takes away the first to establish the second" - and so all ceremonies including the Shadow Sabbaths would have ended at the cross.

    But in Col 2 - Paul himself keeps the Shadow Sabbaths. He point is not to find a way to delete them in Col 2 .. Col 2 is addressing the problem of those who like to make-stuff-up

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    Col 2 is opposed to making up a rule and judging others of being guilty of sin because they differ with you, even if that invented rule is related to a Bible command.

    But Col 2 is not an attempt by Paul to delete the scriptures. Rather Paul condemns the idea of making stuff up that is not in scripture at all - where the only source/authority is "man".

    Col 2:18 Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflatedwithout cause by his fleshly mind,
    19 and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.


    Col 2
    20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
    21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
    22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? 23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh. (KJV)

    Col 2
    20 If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as,
    21 “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” 22 (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?
    23 These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.(NASB)

    Indeed it does! :)
     
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    Alcott said:
    The referenced scriptures still stand.

    Yes, it does and your words don't.
     
  4. BobRyan

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    Dismissing every detail in Col 2 we get this

    I assume you knew I did not write Col 2 - so ignoring the details in that chapter as posted here - does not help to make your case.
     
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    No help is needed. The passage still stands. Your words and bolds and reds don't.
     
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    As the OP is now banned this thread is now closed.
     
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