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Featured Seeking truth about "tongues"...

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by lugnut1009, Jun 17, 2013.

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  1. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    ...that's what I said....
     
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    Just because peter preached the gospel in his normal tongue does not negate that the gospel was being preached in tongues.
     
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    So there is not an example in scriptures that shows that tongues is for evangelizing???
    As for the gifts, I agree, they are to build up the church.
    So how did you come up with the statement that in a Jewish audiance no need for an interpreter, using the Bible?
     
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    I was just clarifying what I meant by being confused.
     
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    Then why did Peter have to preach again?
     
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    I am not Pentecostal, so I do not know how they use it or teach it.
    Can you explain what you mean by self religion?
     
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    Why do I have to preach every week?
     
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    That does not prove or disprove anything! Does someone have to repeat your sermon for you on the same day!
     
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    Now you admit that your speaking in tongues is the same gaggle of syllables over and over again, the gibberish. It never changes. It is not a language at all. You don't know what "language" it is, because it is not a language. It is a gaggle or gibberish of syllables run together, probably the same ones repeated over and over again.

    You just accused someone: "Why would a sermon have to repeated over and over again?"
    But you repeat over and over again the same meaningless syllables and cannot prove otherwise. Right?
     
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    Who said it was the same message? Let's take a look at that passage:

    They spoke in known languages and it just so happens that what they spoke was in languages that they knew and what was spoke between them all was varied and all the different people groups heard and understood without an interpreter. This was not a prayer, this was not a prayer language, it was the gospel. We know this from Peter's sermon:

    Here Peter tells why these people have just heard the gospel in their own language. Because it was told by Joel many years ago this would happen that the Spirit would come on men and they would "prophesy". And those who called on the name of the Lord will be saved. This entire event to include tongues was so that men would be saved.
     
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    And thus, the thread takes on a life of its own....

    Sorry, Lugnut!
     
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    can I take that bet?

    Tongues and the interpreting of them as in Acts and 1 corinthians NOT for today, as they served their function, and the church now has NO extra revelatory aspect outside of the Bible going on!
     
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    Wrong! You must have never heard real tongues!
     
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    Prophesying and tongues are two different manifestations!
     
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    The people in the crowd said, "we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!" In other words, the disciples were praising God, telling Him of His wonders, as in Psalms 40:5 and 66:3:

    "Many, O LORD my God, are the wonders you have done. The things you planned for us no one can recount to you; were I to speak and tell of them, they would be too many to declare." (Psalms 40:5)

    "Say to God, "How awesome are your deeds! So great is your power that your enemies cringe before you."" (Psalms 66:3)

    Why were the disciples praising God in tongues? Because this is one of the primary purposes for tongues:
    "If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying?" (1 Corinthians 14:16)

    On the day of Pentecost the disciples were talking to God in the Holy Spirit (they were praying in the Spirit), they were not sharing the Gospel in tongues.

    The purpose for tongues at Pentecost was not for sharing the Gospel with foreigners in their native languages. In fact, nowhere does the New Testament say that speaking in tongues is for witnessing to foreigners.

    You have to ignore too much in 1 Cor. 14 to believe otherwise!
     
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    Question: Could we say "speak in languages" rather than "speak in tongues"?
     
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    Yes! Languages that the speaker himself does not know.
     
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    Incorrect.
    Languages that the speaker DID NOT know, but now has been given the gift, and now knows the language that he is able to speak. It is a language not previously known to the speaker. But he now knows the language he speaks in. It is a gift. The Gift Of Languages!!
     
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    NOWHERE in scripture does it say that! 1 Cor. 14 proves your theory wrong! If the person knew the language they would not have to pray for the interpretation!
     
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    So - did the apostles n Acts 2 *not* know what they were saying when they started speaking in other languages?
     
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