Okay, wait a minute. Let's just assume Crabby is right and radical white groups are behind it. We can call that racial motivation. We all know racism is wrong.
That doesn't mean the LAWS are wrong. Remember, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
It's like saying a "hate motivated" crime is worse than a regular crime. When it comes down to it, we must follow the constitution. As long as the laws are in agreement with the constitution, it doesn't really matter who thought of them, does it?
She said what?
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Jedi Knight, Jun 3, 2010.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
If a white racist group did write the law and introduce it for passage, then this does make a person wonder what is next on their agenda and who it may be aimed at. However the merits of the law must stand on the law written and how it is interpreted.
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Makes one think that Linda Sanchez and Crabby are the ones with the agenda since they are both more concerned about the person authoring the law than the law itself. -
We are waiting (but not holding our breath) for you to admit that they are equally valid postures. -
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supportertargus said: ↑Obama was supported by black racists and domestic terrorists and you contend that the Arizona law is supported by white racists.Click to expand...
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Crabtownboy said: ↑targus said: ↑Are you suggesting that a White Supremist group would not have an agenda?
And, when are you going to answer my question about Write authoring a law. After all you brought his name up.
Attempting to derail the topic again?Click to expand...
Why do you avoid engaging the intellectual exercise of analyizing your logic?
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Crabtownboy said: ↑Do you believe White Racists do not approve of this law?Click to expand...
Can you explain how it would work - what with Hispanics being white and all?
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Jedi Knight said: ↑Congresswoman: White Supremacist Groups Behind Arizona Immigration Law
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ist-groups-inspired-arizonas-immigration-law/Click to expand...
Drug smugglers, human smugglers, sex slave traders, and Hispanic gang bangers are behind the opposition to the Arizona Immigration Law. :smilewinkgrin: -
It's just as you predicted CTB, with targus leading the charge! :laugh:
And, like you said, no one admitted the truth but attempted the usual misdirect strategy, which targus is also good at. :laugh: -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite SupporterRobert Snow said: ↑It's just as you predicted CTB, with targus leading the charge! :laugh:
And, like you said, no one admitted the truth but attempted the usual misdirect strategy, which targus is also good at. :laugh:Click to expand...
More liberal dishonesty. No truth has been presented. But feel free to point it out. -
Robert Snow said: ↑It's just as you predicted CTB, with targus leading the charge! :laugh:
And, like you said, no one admitted the truth but attempted the usual misdirect strategy, which targus is also good at. :laugh:Click to expand... -
Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supportertargus said: ↑What truth? That drug smugglers, human smugglers, sex slave traders, and Hispanic gang bangers are behind the opposition to the law?Click to expand...
More misdirection and avoiding the topic under discussion.
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Crabtownboy said: ↑More misdirection and avoiding the topic under discussion.
What legislation have these groups introduced into any state government.sClick to expand...
How did "groups" introduce this law?
What "groups" names were on the bill that was voted on?
You haven't proven the original premise yet.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supportertargus said: ↑The OP says "groups" were behind the law.
How did "groups" introduce this law?
What "groups" names were on the bill that was voted on?
You haven't proven the original premise yet.
There is no misdirection here.
There is simply your unwillingness to engage in the discussion.Click to expand...
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Crabtownboy said: ↑So if the OP is about groups for the bill now you are introducing a new thread on groups agains the bill. That is a change of direction, about 180 degrees change.
You continually try to misdirect threads. Try thinking and responding rationally on topic. Thanks in advance.Click to expand...
Such as your first post to "Is America Headed for Governmental Tyranny ???"
The topic was what Obama was doing to our rights and you took it straight to George Bush.
BTW - when did you become the offical liberal socialist censor of the Baptist Board stiffling my freedom of speech and trampling on my rights of free expression.
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Let's look at Crabby's supposed "proof".
"Did you know that the author of Arizona's new anti-immigrant law, SB 1070 has a long historical connection to white supremacist groups?
"Pearce is a racist law machine, pumping out statute after statute targeting the brown segment of AZ's population," Stephen Lemons, Phoenix New Times.
Let's step back to November 7, 2009, to an anti-immigrant rally in Arizona, with guest of honor Senator Russell Pearce spangled in an American flag polo shirt, standing alongside National Socialist Movement marchers decked out in Nazi era regalia, waving flags with swastikas and the Confederate cross. These weren't Alabama citizens proudly waving their state flag, but white supremacists, probably KKK, waving the symbol of a white-only state. In June, 2007, Pearce openly supported white supremacist J.T. Ready, months after Ready was exposed by the Anti Defamation League as a neo-Nazi at an open legislative hearing."
Long historical connection? Back to November 2009?
The article talks about "pictures" of Nazi era regalia. It looks like a tie with a print of the U.S. flag to me.
"Alabma citizens proudly waving their state flag.."? This is proof of "white racism".
"probably KKK"? This is proof? A speculation of "probably"?
Where are the pictures of the "swatiskas" and the "confederate cross"?
Why does this article talk about pictures but then not show them?
Their noticable absence is quite "interesting".
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CTB, it is obvious you will never get a straight or honest answer from targus; he isn't interested in debate if you, or anyone else he perceives as liberal, started or responded to the thread.
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Robert Snow said: ↑CTB, it is obvious you will never get a straight or honest answer from targus; he isn't interested in debate if you, or anyone else he perceives as liberal, started or responded to the thread.Click to expand...
No one has offered any evidence that the comment in the OP is true.
Shouldn't the burden of proof first be on the accuser?
Offer some proof so that there is a basis for discussion.
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