Featured Should Associate Pastor be Fired?

We are to share the faith with everyone and there are millions of lost people out there. Not everyone do we have time or they have time for a chat and so a gospel tract is the best way to witness. Passing out tracts is not the only way to witness but it is a good and valid way. Do you not believe the verse I have in my sig? We are to "preach" the word to all of creation and passing out tracts is a valid way to do this.

 

They are wonderful tracts that use the LAW to convict the conscience of sinners. Find more of their tracts here.

http://www.livingwaters.com/index.p...=shop.browse&category_id=8&Itemid=199&lang=en

 

They are one form of witnessing. When I go out witnessing I pass out hundreds of tracts, I talk with people, pray with people, and do open air preaching.

 

Has this associate been burned at the stake yet?

 

I would like the clarify on my camparision with Jesus mingling with sinners.

No Jesus did not enter any porn shops ect. But for the time he was living in he did some very eyebrow raising things. I was trying to compare the judgment cast upon him for doing some things outside the box compared to what this pastor is doing outside the box. Remember....Jesus was doing things that could have gotten him killed and ultimately it did! He was not a man who walked on the safe side when it came to religious acceptability among the self richouse crowd. It takes alot more guts to preach in a Jewish temple during his time and tell the teachers of the law they are all hypocrites than it does to pass out stuff in a porn shop. This pastor has a long way to go before he can equal the outrage that Christ stirred up with his ministry.

If Jesus had walked the earth during our time do you think he would have feared going into a xxx shop to correct and teach the people?? I'm sure some of our religious community would have burned him at the stake if he had.

But ultimately OP.....if you are his pastor and have authority over him then ask him not to do it or to stand outside. Personally I admire his guts. But he might as well stop because without support he won't succeed.

 

Really LOL :laugh:

So letting a lowly prostitute woman wash his feet with her tears and hair didn't call question upon him to others? The son of God stooping to the level of lowly women and forgiving her sins didn't raise a eyebrow??

 

think that he would no problem walking in there to share with someone who needed to get saved by him, but also think that hewould not have His Apostles hang around to keep viewing magazines!

 

I'm sure it did. But I would imagine that His Holiness in forgiving her and loving her probably smashed any wrong thoughts about the association.

Jesus was always witnessing Himself CONSISTENTLY.

While tracts are a useful tool in witnessing, they should not replace one-on-one witnessing. That's the purpose of a tract. To point people towards Jesus ad the people who can answer their questions.

As evangelist stated, Scripture says we must not give the appearance of evil. And there are just so many different ways he could have gone about this.

As was mentioned, he could have stood outside and passed out the tracts giving him the opportunity to actually engage in dialog with the people

He could have spoken with the owner and asked if he could leave a stack of the tracts next to the magazines or at their counter.

He could have asked the owners if it was okay to place them on cars after explaining where he was from.

As it is, he needs to be reprimanded. His WAY tends to suggest that he's lusting because there are just too many other ways to do this that don't make it look like you're coming in and looking at porn.

That strip church ministry is a wonderful story. But unless the pastor's wife is bisexual and has a thing for women, there is marked difference between a woman ministering to strippers than there is a heterosexual man sifting through heterosexual porn to place a tract.

 

Apples and oranges. She wasn't topless.

 

I'm sure it did. But He didn't see her naked before she washed his feet, either.

That doesn't even begin to stoop as low as this associate pastor is in opening up XXX magazines and exposing himself both to temptation, and to ridicule -- particularly when it isn't necessary for him to do so.

 

Point taken. By the way I'm not really into arguing with you...just a friendly debate and opposing point of view. It's healthy to disagree sometimes. I guess if we all agreed 100% of the time it would be hard to hold each other accountable.

I would like to say we are open to temptation from the time we open our eyes everyday. He is a adult I'm assuming so me being very conservative I guess I assume he can handle his own temptations without a babysitter. As the flesh leader of your church it's your call. You asked and I gave a honest opinion. Hope it helped one way or another. Good luck and hope it all works out

 

When I was in my early twenties me and a friend did something similar but we didn't go into the establishment. One night we went to the parking lot of a topless club and put hand written letters under the windshield wipers of a few scattered cars. I don't remember the exact words but they were telling them about Christ, a short Roman Roads gospel message and that forgiveness was a prayer away. We included the phone number for a small church in our town with the Pastor's knowledge. I have no idea if anything came of it.

Going inside would not have been wise for me. I don't know if what we did was wise. It was an act of faith and zeal.

I think the person in question is at best very unwise in how he is trying to reach these people. They need to be reached with the Gospel. I believe that if it could be arranged, having coffee or sharing a meal at a public diner with the owner or customers of the XXX bookstore would be more in line with what our Lord did when he walked this earth. Still, since he has put tracks in those magazines (we assume) I pray it bears fruit.

 

Would say that if a pastor rebels against following the lead of those over him, good sign might not be cut out for Pastoring, or at least might need to take some down time and regroup!

maybe he has developed some problems with viewing that stuff?

 

There is more than the op side to this story. Sounds like a grudge to me IMO.

 

very well could be, as there seems to be a lot of just getting posted one side of the story here on the BB!