I think Russell55 had a good point about the Jews understanding God's wrath because they had the law.
Here is what Paul said to the people (Gentiles) at the Areopagus:
Act 17:30
"Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,
Act 17:31
"because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead."
He never got any farther with his speech because they mocked him and didn't want to hear any more.
But Paul seems to have made it clear that a judgement was coming.
I'm not anti-the wrath of God in the presentation of the Gospel, but it is not always the message that God would put on the evangelizer's heart to share with another.
The rich young ruler, when he asked, "What must I do to inherit eternal life?" was he told about the wrath of God? (Mark 10:17-22).
I cannot speak to your pastor. But if your would like to show me where the other threee did and then explain why i would be interested to hear your take on it.
I'm not trying to argue with you, although it is kinda fun "ganging up you" .:laugh:
At some point a person must be convicted of their sin or they will not turn to God (repent).
The Holy Spirit is the one who really is responsible for this conviction, so if someone presents the gospel without the wrath part, the Spirit will still convict.
But I really don't see how you can present the gospel if you don't tell the person why Christ was crucified, which was because of the wrath of God.
It fell on Christ instead of me.
Yes, a person must see the need for the Savior and come to him in biblical faith.
But it does not follow that this must always happen because a person heard about the wrath of God.
Notice what Paul says in 2 Cor 4:
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. 4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
In this case, it is "seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ."
I'm not sure what you are asking.
As I stated earlier, the examples are
a.
Jesus with the woman at the well (where was the wrath taught?)
b.
Paul with the jailer after the prison gates opened (where was the wrath taught?)
c.
Phillip with the Ethiopian (where was the wrath taught?)
Not all at once.
You've got me there.
But from the time I was born 'til the time I was saved, all those questions were put to me by someone.
Just not all at once.
I'm not saying a person cannot be saved if we (mere humans) don't present every single detail of the gospel.
God is greater than that.
He certainly doesn't withold salvation from anyone because the gospel wasn't presented perfectly.
But, the whole gospel includes God's wrath because that is why Christ gave His life.