In that the discussion of the "prolife myth" was derailed to an argument over sin...
Since sin is sin... and everyone one sins...
Why should anyone get exercised over the shooting of unarmed black people by white police?
After all if we are going to say that the murder of the unborn is no worse than any other sin, why can't the argument be made that the killing of an unarmed person by the police is no worse than abortion - which is legal and occurs 4,000 times a day in this country alone.
Since sin is sin....
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by targus, Apr 14, 2015.
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Why? Some people think that any thing to do with racial conflict is more exciting.
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Why are you so worked up over police shootings of unarmed people which happen what - fewer than a dozen times a year?
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White folks were worked up over that Knock-out game. So save that foolishness.
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Like he would feel differently if a white person, opposed to a black person, shot an unarmed member of his family.
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As I've said before, I'm around these communities all the time. I've gained an insight that many don't have or don't want.
And a lot of white people on this board and in the church in the United States exhibit the blindness of white privilege that desensitizes them from even listening to what Blacks are saying because privilege doesn't have to listen. Privilege doesn't have to care. As long as it's not disparately impacting my world, privilege puts it on ignore, the same way privilege in the Church put slavery and Jim Crow on IGNORE.
So yes, I have a HUGE problem with white folks in the Body of Christ acting like the white folks during the days of slavery and Jim Crow. -
[QUTE]I'm not complacent about anything. Unlike yourself and some others, I just don't have to be unChristlike and nasty about my objection to abortion, capital punishment or any taking of life.[/QUOTE]
Yes, judging others does seem to part of your MO.
I just can not help but notice that you have started and participated in a disproportionate number of discussions about police and their treatment of suspects...
But about abortion which occurs at a rate probably 10,000 times greater...
Not so much.
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So a lot of white people don't understand why Blacks can distinguish between others doing things to them as opposed to the group that's been marginalizing their lives since they arrived in these here United States of America.
So yeah, ask them. Where they are concerned, there's a huge difference because it's extra salt in the wound from folks who have treated them as inferior and less than since the time their ancestors first got here.
As it stands, and because of the inability of white folks to acknowledge that the black color of their skin does play a significant role in how they are treated by a lot of Whites today and yesterday, I guarantee to you that it matters to them. -
Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
A black woman on her way to the court house to appear before the judge for several charges of DUI and drug charges was high as a kite and driving her car approximately 90 miles per hour when she hit my mother from behind.
My mother's car was hurled upside down into a grove of trees. She had to be cut out of the car. Her trachea was cracked and still is - she can't sing anymore. Her arm was broken, her back was cracked, she had many, many staples in her head and to this day, glass shards STILL work their way out of her arm to the surface even though she had to had surgery to remove what they could. It's very painful.
That wreck from a drug addicted black woman changed my mother's life forever.
The woman never stopped. The only thing that stopped her was that about 5 miles down the road, she hit a light pole. She jumped out of the car, unhurt (as happens a lot with intoxicated people) and stripped naked and began running around.
What was my family's response and the response of the entire hick town of wildly conservative and religious Republicans?
Compassion.
When she stripped naked and started running around, a few men and one woman from that part of the neighborhood came out and one brought a blanket. They chased her until they could cover her and get her to lie down.
Two men that I know for sure of in the neighborhood contacted her family after her name was made known to inquire about helping her family.
My own mother AND FATHER never once said anything of bitterness or scorn about her. My parents were too worried about her immortal soul and her being a drug addict. I know for a fact that they have prayed for her many times. So have I.
My mother's pastor contacted the family to check on them.
Me? I am and was and will always be very angry at what happened. I'm angry that drugs took over this woman's life - black, white, or Hispanic. I'm angry that my mother will suffer pain 24-hours a day for the rest of her life.
But I pray for that woman. I know her name. While a handful of others reached out to her family, I don't know if I should. My parents were told not to - but that while the investigation was still on-going.
So how do I feel that a black person almost killed my mother and caused her chronic pain?
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When it comes to issues of black and white, the majority of you act like you would fit right in with the bigots of the 50s and 60s and the era of slavery.
Don't ever mistake my direction for folks to honor and respect those who God has placed in authority over us as championing a man.
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But color isn't irrelevant. If it were, you wouldn't have used black as a descriptor throughout to describe.
And no matter how much white people continue to tell this lie about the irrelevancy of color, they DO see it.
A lot of white people think color makes one more violent. A lot of folks think color makes one angrier. A lot of white folks think color makes one more apt to steal. A lot of white folks think color makes one less willing to work. A lot of white folks think color should make one submissive to those who have marginalized, mistreated and maligned them.
Color is the reason there are, in the words of MLK Jr, two Americas.
So feign irrelevancy as privilege allows you to. Those whose skin is not white as well as a lot whose skin is white, fully recognize that it does matter.
Part of the race problem in this country is that white people refuse to acknowledge that it matters because then we have to get into a conversation about something that makes everybody uncomfortable. -
Nothing righteous about that. -
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Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
Zaac, I used color as a descriptor of this woman because you ASKED us to imagine if a black person harmed our family. I gave you a non-pretend testimony and used the word black as per your instructions to imagine a person's blackness and it's affect on our attitude if they harmed us or our family.
How am I supposed to NOT use the word black when you put it out there for use to respond as to how a person being black affects our attitude towards their harming us?
Now, you are telling me that I am not being truthful with you. When I tell you that "this woman's" color was not relevant in terms of how this impacted my family and I not feigning anything. -
You're the one who said it was irrelevant. Is it as irrelevant as news people mentioning that a suspect is black but not mentioning when suspects are white?
And just because Whites haven't experienced that marginalization doesn't mean that it should be ignored as a factor in why Blacks are so outraged at how they are being treated by the police. -
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Nice job, targus.
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