Just the kind of reply leftists always give. They remain here to ‘help’ others see the error of their ways, & are typically verbose in doing so. They sway no one, but they love to hear themselves, ad nauseam, if I might borrow a phrase. They dissect minutia so people will see how superior they are. What people truly see is how superior a leftist thinks he is. Look at the people who take apart posts piece by piece in their responses, & you’ll see a leftist. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Six Bombshell Revelations from Fauci's Emails
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Jun 4, 2021.
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Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
I have faith that people when presented with good information and a logical argument are able think critically and potentially change their views. At the least they will think more carefully about what they post in the future and maybe fact check things a bit first before they post something that makes themselves look stupid. Maybe my faith is misplaced but I will continue to believe that to be true. -
RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
But Fauci even arrogantly doubled down when the interviewer asked him if he was certain. If Fauci was trying to discourage the public from mask usage throughout the pandemic, he said the right thing.
If he was only trying to discourage mask usage temporarily, he failed miserably. He could have easily and readily added that he had no reliable data, that he was awaiting double-blind studies, as he did for HCQ despite all of the success stories.
If the goal was to correct his arrogant misrepresentation, the right thing to do would have been to step down permanently and allow someone else to fill the gap, someone who still had sufficient credibility.
Fauci rightly has zero credibility, except with sycophants, gullible types, and those with more nefarious aims. -
RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
Again, the best thing to do is follow the suggestion to stick to medicine. -
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But for those who care, it is true that things the size of a virus or a very small droplet carrying virus can get both in and out of a surgical mask equally easily, especially through the sides and gaps.
But surgical masks are very effective at blocking large droplets that are produced immediately by a cough or sneeze that then become smaller droplets. Which is what they were designed to do for surgeons to keep from contaminating their surgical field. That protection is far from perfect but when large swaths of the population use those masks and then combine them with other public health measures like distancing, isolating yourself when sick, early testing, etc you have a very effective low cost way to reduce the probability of infection and manage a pandemic.
Having a multilayered strategy for managing risk is known as the Swiss cheese model and used conceptually for many things including air plane safety, reducing medical errors, bank security, defending against hackers and pandemic control.
The Swiss Cheese Model of Pandemic Defense
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Think of it this way, a fence around a tennis court will stop a tennis ball but not a golf ball.
The principle is not to stop COVID but to provide a preventive measure (stop the big stuff to help minimize exposure). -
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https://www.chesco.org/DocumentCenter/View/54484/PPE-Summary-3-31-20
Hospitals are already starting to run out of respirator masks crucial for coronavirus protection | Live Science
And if you read Fauci's quote in context, he is saying that his recommendation is
1) for "right now" meaning it can change
2) masks do offer protection by blocking droplets but it is not the protection people think (meaning it is more to protect other people from the wearer)
3) that recommending them would lead to shortages for people who needed them right then
So if he advised at that time for everyone to get masks, you would have hundreds of millions of people hoarding masks that did not have the virus and none available for sick people and health care workers.
Outdated Fauci Video on Face Masks Shared Out of Context - FactCheck.org
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Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
The Swiss cheese model of Covid-19 defence: What it means, how it works
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RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
The arrogance he displays in his arbitrary pontifications bolstered by ignorance disqualifies him as head of anything. Fauci simply cannot be trusted, should not be trusted.
While a pandemic was growing, he spoke out against measures that might have significantly decreased the danger and saved lives, ensuring that the spread would be even more devastating, more catastrophic. Fauci deserves a Cuomo Award—the one for official mass murderer. -
RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
Meanwhile, the Communist Chinese regime continues to conspire in their coverup after first conspiring to hide the coming pandemic, which they in effect conspired to perpetrate with the help of the WHO. They had the help of the Dem Progressive Left & their MSM as well to ensure the US would be very hard hit.
But the Dem Progressive Left with the help of their MSM was already well-practiced in carrying out conspiracy with a massive one, or several overlapping ones, against the Trump campaign and administration, infamously accusing of what they are guilty, as is their wont. -
RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
Meanwhile, from an Australian perspective...
Fauci funded 'bat-human interface' research in China to avoid an outbreak in the US
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Reformed1689 Well-Known Member
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But there is a concern of people being contagious before they realize they are sick. This happens with just about any respiratory virus (people think they may have an issue with allergies, or perhaps just not feeling good, etc.) when in fact they have a virus that can be transmitted.
Wearing masks was never intended, to my knowledge, to be a way for people who know they are sick and contagious to mingle with the public. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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That said, in our nation men have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. One person is not permitted to exercise his or her right at the expense of others.
Consider how God told Israel to deal with lepers. God did not tell the lepers they were free to mingle in public, that the public should stay home. -
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