1. he's a big boy, he can decide what he wants to do. I don't really care if he does, or if anyone does, many christians do, we do not by the way.
2. if indeed it is illegal to smoke in the white house, and I suspect it is being a federal building, then are we to say the president is above the law.
Kind of funny if you think about and it being the president.
Smoking Obama- Liar, Liar pants on fire!
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Enoch, Dec 8, 2008.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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The White House is the man's residence. If he wants to smoke in his personal bed or even in his personal john then that's his business. I don't think he will be smoking in the oval office or in any other public part of the White House.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Just when did it become his house, when did he buy it, is his name on the deed? No? then it isn't his house, his position in the house is nothing more then renter status. And the owners have said no smoking, just so happens the federal governemant is the landlord, and it si illegal. -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_United_States
The following is a list of smoking bans in the United States.
Article One of the Constitution of the United States does not grant the United States Congress the specific power to regulate smoking or tobacco use. Conceivably, however, Congress could attempt to enact a nationwide smoking ban using, for example, the Commerce Clause by regulating tobacco, including where it is consumed, or the Taxing and Spending Clause, by making a state's access to certain federal funds contingent on the state adopting a statewide smoking ban. Alternatively, Congress could attempt to amend the Constitution to prohibit smoking nationwide (as it did to enact Prohibition in the United States by means of the Eighteenth Amendment in 1919). But no proposal for any of these measures ever has ever been put forth before Congress.
Therefore, smoking bans in the United States are only a product of state and local criminal and occupational safety and health laws. What follows is a list of such state and local laws. 50% of Americans are covered by a 100% smoking ban.[1] For smoking bans and restrictions outside the United States, see the worldwide list of smoking bans. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
A smoking ban was established in the Whitehouse during the Clinton administration. Probably the only decent thing they did.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
Was that before or after his infamous cigar episode ?
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Give the man a break. The building may belong to the tax payers but it is his home.
Let's hammer him on his socialism, etc not on him smoking a malboro. -
I haven't commented before now, wondering even now " why do so?" when it seems of so little value..... my 2 cants worth.
Having been a smoker myself, I can empathize with the difficulty of quitting. Whether it's true or not, I've been told that quitting smoking is harder for a woman than a man because of how our brains are wired to be receptive and more quickly influenced by addictive chemicals. Also, while there are some ex-smokers who say they just suddenly stopped and never returned to tobacco, the majority who have quit, did so through a progression of starts and stops to becoming a non-smoker. Many who do smoke and wish they had never picked up tobacco, are honest when they encourage others not to start. Their habitual use may seem to make their message less effective, but they are a living but slowly ticking time bomb of experience and 'druthers' which would be wise for non-smokers to see the whole picture before ever taking on the habit.
I don't have to like Obama's policies to have empathy for his desire to kick tobacco out of his life for good. It doesn't seem like the more stressful job of the Presidency will make it any easier for him to quit permanently: Smokers experience nicotine as a mental lift, and anxiety reducer..... up to a point. Both of these effects upon ones' mind and body can make it difficult to quit.
The path to becoming a non-smoker means for many, many nights of waking up, walking around and performing one's duties like in a fog finding concentration difficult, unexpected and often untimely moments of heightened anxiety, reduced caloric needs (estimated to be 100 cal/day), and a craving to substitute other habits which bring pleasure..... often food since it tastes better an is associated with hunger desires which smoking does suppress a little.
If he chooses to smoke in the White House..... let him. I hope he continues to have the decency to be conscious of his whereabouts and the public and the camera ........ as a picture of a smoking president does give double messages to youth who may look up to him. -
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But why lie about it...
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But if the first lady of the Clinton administration bans smoking in the WH, does that make it law?
If it is law, what and who enforces it?
If one first lady can make policy for the WH, which isn't a statutory law...... what prevents another first lady or president from changing it?
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Not very flattering of him......
He could have been honest and stated he was trying to quit instead of saying he's quit. But, then, to one coming out of a habit it is true from lapse to unexpected lapse. -
This guy didn't do too bad.
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Neither did this one.
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Or how about the guy who stared down Nikita Kruschev until he blinked.
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Okay, not every smokin' POTUS was a great leader.
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