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Socialism doesn't work: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    Not a bad idea.

    Rev. entered the OP so he should supply a link showing this is not an urban legend. He made the charge, it is his to prove.

    It is suspicious in that the wording is past tense and Obama has only been in office since Jan. Not much past tense yet. Also, who has ever been in a college class where everyone agreed. That alone is enough to say, "Hey, something is wrong here."
     
  2. targus

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    What charge did he make?

    You are the one making the charge.

    Do your research before criticizing others.

    I also don't see in the OP where it is characterized as a true story, urban legend, fairytale, analogy, parable, or anything else.

    Try to stop living up to your screen name. It's quite unbecoming.
     
  3. Robert Snow

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    Isn't it Johnv who actually stated that this story was an urban legend?
     
  4. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    yea good question
     
  5. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    I see.

    What, in your opinion, makes socialism "inappropriate"?
     
  6. LadyEagle

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    Flaming again?
     
  7. Johnv

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    Indeed, 'twas me. The poster of the OP has objected to me noting that this is an urban legend, but has not objected to the fact that the OP is an urban legend.

    There are numerous sites that denote this as fiction, erumor, and urban legend. Here's the most common example:

    http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp

    Whenever material resources are redistributed in a manner in which a certain segment of the population receives an unearned gain, it breeds a sense of entitlement to that unearned gain. The resulting mentality of entitlement is what makes socialism inappropriate.

    That said, there are facets of socialism that are perfectly appropriate, such as police and fire services, public utilities, libraries, and other municipal or governmental infrastructure systems. These do not result in unearned gains of individuals.
     
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  8. rbell

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    There's about 10 good responses to this...but all of them will get me in trouble. :eek:
     
  9. rbell

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    I notice that now that we're fixated on the "urban legend" angle...we're not dealing with the quite solid points made in the OP...
     
  10. rbell

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    Baloney.

    Communism is a forced system. Religious, and most families (certainly between adults) are not.

    Get your facts straight.
     
  11. rbell

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    JustChristian, perhaps you don't understand the trend toward bank nationalization...Government Motors...C(r)ap and trade...government healthcare...

    Socialist programs all.

    Throw tantrums and name-call all you want. It's been proven that Obama has (at the very least) socialist leanings. It's as plain as day.
     
  12. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    Obama's marxist ideology are well documented as are his marxist mentors.
     
  13. Crabtownboy

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    Well documents ... .fine, give us some links.
     
  14. LadyEagle

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    Here's one from wikipedia:

    Bill Ayers

    "Black Liberation Movement" = Jeremiah Wright and James Cone
     
  15. billwald

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    You are changing the subject, so be it

    The IP was criticizing an economic theory, not a political system.

    Doesn't communism and socialism as an economic theory "work" in very small social groups? Does your family elect its president and family council in a "democratic" fashion? Does The Wife get an equal vote in committee?


    >That does not equal communism with is forced on the people by use of force (government).

    Is The US not forcing Democracy on Iraq? How many revolutions has the US started and/or supported in foreign countries?
     
  16. Revmitchell

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    No the US is not forcing anything on anyone. Really you need to collect facts first.
     
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    "Inappropriate" just seems to be a strange term to use to describe socialism. :confused:

    But I would not apply the term socialistic to fire and police services and certainly not utilities, the majority of which are not "public" at all.
     
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    Evidentally..... You don't recognize the use of parables.

    Jesus did.

    He was the greatest teacher that ever lived.
     
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    As long as you are collecting documents... maybe you can find Obama's birth certificate while you're at it.:tongue3:
     
  20. Johnv

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    On that note, there are numerous threads on thsi very board that debate whether parables were they were fictional stories used to convey a spiritual truth, or whether they were real events. There is no shortage of folks to think that they must be real in order to be true, based on the notion that Jesus doesn't lie.

    That said, the OP is an urban legend, and there's no disputing that. There is nothing inappropriate in noting that. Neither is it inappropriate to note that a biblical parable is typically fictional.
     
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