Have you ever tried to make the decision to kick back into bible study and had trouble finding where to start? Well, there's a simple solution! James Vernon MgGee's Thru The Bible Study is starting over again! We just got through the first chapter in the Book of Genesis, but you can always review archives at oneplace dot com!
Anyway I still got a few questions....
People always assume we say the Universe was made from nothing...is it a mistake to make this claim? I though the God made the universe. Isn't God enough material to build a universe from?
MgGee mentioned a passage about man being called to "redeem," the earth and speculated that there was somthing else living there that wasn't anymore. Could he mean that angles had first inhabited the planet?
Also I think God rested and commanded us to rest in order for us to appreciate what we do or are doing. This especially works if what we do is for the Lord. Then we can better evade the trap of ceaceslly doing things and forgetting our purpose..then we start working under the feeling of meaninglessness, and our output begins to suffer becuase of it. Of course this didn't apply to God, since he just stopped becuase everything he had done was perfect and he just wanted to admire it. Still, this command to take a day of rest is still in our best interests, since after all, we are made in his image (Gen 1:26).
Thats All,
Mike
Starting Over
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by UnchartedSpirit, Apr 20, 2006.
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if you believe that God is the "stuff" of creation you are a pantheist... God and His creation must always be kept seperate, or else you could end up with pantheism or panentheism.... God didn't need any "material" to create with, He is God
as far as the next point, you are right.. speculation....
and yes, taking a break is a good thing
blessings,
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I didn't mean that
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I didn't mean that God is a part of the creation, but that since God existed, there was somthing there to bring forth the universe. There may have not been a comsmic egg required, but that dosen't mean that there was compleately nothing before the universe was made. There was God and there wasn't a time where there wasn't God. Therefore, something, indeed someone, was there, in existence, to create the universe.
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God always existed and nothing else existed with Him, no matter, no materials of any kind was needed for Him to create with, By His very power He formed all matter, as scripture says He spoke what exists into exsistance.
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I didn't see anything about "redeeming" the world in my translation. Am I misquoting that?
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There is an argument that there is a pause between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, perhaps of thousands, even millions of years. There is another view that Genesis 1:1 should read "In the beginning God RE-created the Heaven and the Earth." These may relate to the "redeemed" concept.
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Would that mean is other creations were "failures," and he was continuing improving his divine plans up to the Relevation?
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IDK. Those aren't my arguments.
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Joseph Botwinick -
Joseph, the concept is there in between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, but I've never heard anyone think that Genesis 1:1 is anything other than the very beginning.
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Could Genesis 6 point to angels (sons of God) mating with woman? Will God replace the rebellious angels? Are we not sons of God? Isn't this our destiny? Aren't we that are in the Body of Christ, the "very Son of God", to be made like Him. John 3:2, " Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." If not angels, then we will be something better. -
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That's not quite true. The only non-humanistic theory of creation that is not compatible with Scripture is an absolute six-day creation.
In the beginning, God created everything. But, some time between this and Genesis 1:2, some stuff happened. We don't know how long and we don't know what.
Genesis opens with the story of creation, ruin, restoration, and rest, and Scripture in its entirety is brought into view. Scripture, from the Hebrew perspective, deals more with what happened than the when or the how. They found it sufficient to credit it to God.
That's what I do. My personal opinion is that in the restoration, God did the work in six literal days. But, you cannot take Scripture and disprove the day-age theory, theistic evolution, nor any other mainstream theory of creation except for natural evolution.
We do know that things simply did not happen. (Isaiah 45:18 tells us that God did not create the world "without form and void".) -
The reason the jury is still out for me is that the Hebrew expression for "without form and void" appears in one other place in the Bible (I can't remember where - Jeremiah?), and it is used to describe a world with destroyed and desolate cities, etc. -
Here's a few URLs on recreation. Just do a "find" on recreate to speed things up. Remember: I don't buy the arguments, just commenting on them.
http://tinyurl.com/lsuhz
http://tinyurl.com/an6jw
http://tinyurl.com/p7uwk
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I am familiar with most of the popular theories regarding a pre-Adamic race, I just don't buy into any of them. I believe in six literal twenty-four periods in which God created the heavens and the earth. I'm also a young-earth guy.
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Hello Hope of Glory.
Speculation must not lead away from scripture. :cool:
john.