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Taking Giuliani’s Insane, Un-American Press Conference Seriously

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by KenH, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    "How can one even begin to diagram this conspiracy? Here is the best I can come up with:

    • The Democrats paid the voting-system company to flip X percent of votes from Trump to Biden (but didn’t do the same for down-ballot Democrats).
    • Like the gang from Office Space, they put the decimal point in the wrong place and so the number of votes changed were not enough to overwhelm Trump’s landslide victory.
    • But luckily they had a back-up fraud plan in case their payment to the voting system company didn’t pan out.
    • Thousands of fraudulent mail ballots were sent in—as shown by the fact that some of them were very neatly filled out. And others were crammed in very messily.
    • This is further proven by the self-evident truth that obviously liberals cheat and something something Hugo Chavez." ...
    Unconstrained by having to present any evidence at all, the Apple Giuliani Gang concocts a conspiracy that sounds manifestly true to voters who have been trained to believe that the left is evil incarnate, but sounds so preposterous to everyone else that Republican elected officials can avoid engaging on the merits while they accuse The Media of being mean to them for asking about it and mock liberals for panicking over this subversion of our democracy.

    And so the conspiracy theory exists in an uncanny valley: It’s advanced by the president of the United States and believed by untold millions of his followers but at the same time it’s so ludicrous that it’s impossible to put into context for audiences who do not exist in the Trump Alternative Universe."

    Taking Giuliani’s Insane, Un-American Press Conference Seriously - The Bulwark
     
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    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    Typical third party spin—always against the Republicans. Join the riots and violence in support of Biden—his rule will not affect you yourself personally.
     
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    This post is un-American. Its full of name calling and short of facts. Its full of ignoring legitimate witnesses in order to further the hate Trump agenda. TDS at its finest. Un-American to the core.
     
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  4. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Is not.
     
  5. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Being minor party means not being a Democrat or a Republican.
     
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    I think what can (and should) be taken seriously is the fact voter fraud has increasing become an issue (it has always been an issue, but now it exceeds merely strong arming voters).

    Voter fraud existed when Hillary Clinton engaged a campaign, when Joe Biden repeatedly touted known propaganda as if it were fact, and when President Trump spun Biden's positions beyond reasonable recognition to misinform voters.

    I believe this is fraud because these are leaders lying to the people they are elected or are campaigning to serve.
     
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    RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member

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    How hard I find it to offhandedly dismiss such a well-thought out, decisive, point-by-point rebuttal to lawsuits he has yet to read much less study, but with true grit and determination I hereby do just that. :Wink OK, it turned out to be much easier than I had imagined. :Thumbsup Go figure. And consider the TDS source. LOL.

    Tim Miller
    Tim Miller is The Bulwark’s writer-at-large. He was previously political director for Republican Voters Against Trump, communications director for Jeb Bush 2016, and spokesman for the Republican National Committee.​
     
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  8. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Hard for me to see that abbreviation and not think about one of my favorite Standardbred horses, Tall Dark Stranger, who recently retired to stud. :)
     
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    Hmmm. Maybe it's time they took a similar tack. :Wink
     
  10. KenH

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    Not sure it would be a good idea to breed even more political pundits, regardless of political viewpoint. ;)
     
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    Well, maybe we could fix that, them. It would make a great change to all they "fix." :Wink
     
  12. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Well, as a "gelding" myself, I say, "Come on in, the water's fine." Not that it matters now at my age. :)
     
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    TDS may be a racehorse, or a debilitating mental disorder, but to me, it's my home ISP provider.

    Tim Miller has the psychiatric meaning. So Timmy thinks Rudy G is insane and un-American? Who'd know better - more extensive resume:


    Communications Director Tim Miller

    (reported on Feb. 20, 2015...if Bush runs Miller is expected to become communications director) Executive director of America Rising LLC since March 2013. Deputy communications director at the RNC from March 2012-March 2013. Press secretary on Jon Huntsman's presidential campaign, June 2011-Feb. 2012. Director/lead digital communications strategist in the Public Affairs division at the Glover Park Group, from July 2009-Feb. 2011. Communications strategist at Berman and Company, 2007-09. Iowa communications director for John McCain, 2006-mid-2007. Communications director on Jeff Lamberti for Congress, 2006. Political director on Bill Dix for Congress, 2005-06. Field on Jerry Kilgore for Governor of Virginia, 2005. Travel aide on Bill Lee for Governor of Delaware, 2004. B.A. in political science from The George Washington University, 2004.

    Has he ever been part of a winning campaign???
     
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    Good point. When even the Washington Post calls you out on unrepentant lying...you have a problem.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nse-of-his-attack-on-mitt-romneys-tax-record/
     
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    More of your Communist bent garbage.
     
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    No, it means that you give Biden a pass all the time. Third party financial interests are tied to big government as far as I can tell.
     
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    Can anyone disagree with your political bent without you calling them a name like "Communist"?
     
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    I disagree. If that was the case, then I would have voted for Biden.
     
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    I disagree. I know lots of minor party supporters who are not in favor of "big government".
     
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    Mere lip service. There is more money for third parties under Democrat rule because there is more federal spending.
     
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