Temporary Salvationist 1-8

It must be going around, because I've had to eat two helpings of crow today. Hope I can make it a few more hours without a third. It doesn't matter how you cook it up, crow just doesn't taste very good

 

Spiritual Narcolepsy?

Lacy



[quote]Rom 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep: for now [is] our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
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It's a free country. Do what you think is right. If you change your mind, you are no less of a man in my eyes. I've gotten frustrated and bowed out of a post that I felt was getting irrelevant, only to change my mind.

I kind of like having you around. And I appreciate it when you respond.

Lacy

 

I hope you don't go yet, you would not be lying if you said you were leaving and then came back because you changed your mind due to new circumstances. The Lord said Nineveh would be overthrown and it was not. But the Lord did not lie.

I still intend to reply to the your last post in this thread, I just haven't been able to yet. I am new to debating in an internet forum, and have found that I have gotten into too many discussions. I have made comments that have spawned off new threads in the Bible Version section. And there are so many inaccuracies and faulty methods of reasonings over there that I can't possibly make the time to address them all. Especially since so much basic, foundational truth has to be laid just to try to get most of the posters to even begin to see the fallacy of their position.

 

:laugh: Thanks Lacy. I needed a good chuckle this morning. Good thing I didn't have any liquid in my mouth or I would be cleaning up my computer now.

 

I just read back over the last several pages of this thread. I want to aplolgize both to Herb and to Mike. I was caught up in your debate and I stuck my nose in when it was just getting good.

If you would start a new thread and continue, I will promise to only enjoy the reading of it and avoid posting myself.

Lacy

 

Herb is that a self portrait? :laugh:

 

Bro. Evans, I met you 15 years or so ago at a fellowship meeting. I was there with Bro. Bunch. It is refreshing to have someone on here that has some common spiritual sense. Keep up the good work.

 

Point#1- Total lack of doubt as to our salvation.
Point#2- Unconditional Confusion over gift and reward, and over faith and works.
Point#3- Limited assurance of Kingdom entrance as we grow in obedience.
Point#4- Irresistable peace with the other half of the Bible.
Point#5- Punishment of disobedient, unrepentant, unwatchful Christians in hell fire

Count me in. TULIP!

Lacy

 

Lacy, pardon me for butting in - I haven't been here for months - but what is the difference between this and Purgatory?

Liz

 

I was going to let Lacy answer, but I guess he is busy. Purgatory is just another step in the long process of Catholic works salvation. A Catholic goes to mass, goes to confession, prays their rosary, etc... and if they have been a good enough Catholic, they get to go to purgatory to have the rest of their sins purged so they can go to heaven. A Catholic can't even be sure they are going to get to go to purgatory. We believe that a person is once saved, always saved, by faith in the finished work of Christ. Nothing we do can prevent us from being raised up to be with Christ on the last day. But the millennial kingdom is an age of reward for those who have lived faithful obedient lives for Christ. Missing the kingdom because of disobedience is not earning salvation by suffering. It is chastisement for a child of God.

 

Yes, well, I have met several Catholics who would say exactly the same thing of purgatory - they emphasise most strongly that those in purgatory ARE SAVED. SO I repeat, what's the difference - apart from duration?

Liz