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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, May 27, 2015.

  1. InTheLight

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    Yep. But right now, there is no law saying welfare parents have to get drug tested. You are advocating that government expand and have more powers. I guess it just goes to show when some conservatives like a government program they are all in. (See: Patriot Act, photo voter ID laws)

    Is your employer the government or a private entity?
     
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    Should people renewing their driver's license be drug tested?
     
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    Why does it matter?

    Even McDonald's drug tests employees to hire them and anytime thereafter it wants to.

    Drug testing employees by private employers has become common. It's not rare at all.
     
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    Are they receiving a government check every month along with their drivers license?
     
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    They are receiving the right to drive and if high on drugs putting their life and others lives in danger.

    So, should they be tested for drugs?
     
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    Should you be tested for drugs?
     
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    The DMV ought to just test license applicants that say they have done drugs, been denied unemployment because of drugs or have a pending drug-related court date and see how that goes.
     
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    I'm not going to look at these, as you will still not acknowledge the error in the stats. These are useless.

    ITL brings up a great point about ,limited government, and it seems to me you would be better off with that argument, than lying about some stats, calling people hateful, and resting on that.
     
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    No check.

    It's a false equivilency. Find something that makes sense,
     
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    Who said it was equivalent? It is a simple question. Should people who are renewing their drivers license be tested for drugs?


     
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    The numbers are fine. Every state has lost money. The politicians were wrong. Money is not being saved, just wasted. Admit it, you are wrong. Surely we should limit government when it is shown to be a waste of money.

    Are you for limited government and thus agree these programs should be dissolved?
     
  12. InTheLight

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    Wait a minute...

    You're all for drug testing of welfare recipients by reasoning that keeping children safe is a worthy outcome, yet here you are saying keeping the public safe on the streets does not rise to the same standard. That seems a bit inconsistent to me. It also seems like you simply want welfare recipients to be drug tested, well, because they're welfare recipients.
     
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    I believe you are pointing out an attitude that is common among people who claim to be conservative. They really are not conservative, just mean spirited toward those in need. Sad isn't it?
     
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    I wouldn't characterize it in that way. They really are conservatives in that they can't stand government waste. Who likes the idea of a person receiving food stamps and exchanging them for cash on the black market so they can buy drugs? I hope the answer is no one.

    I wouldn't say they are necessarily mean-spirited either, just don't think government should be the entity to be delivering the charity.
     
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    Those so called mean spirited conservatives give way more, personally, than you so called loving liberals.


    "Thomas Sowell captured this overall sentiment in a Nov. 2006 Human Events piece when he wrote, “One of the most pervasive political visions of our time is the vision of liberals as compassionate and conservatives as less caring.” While myths surrounding leftist giving and volunteerism continue to be perpetuated, American researchers have taken a pretty clear and concise look at this issue and the case is closed: Conservatives out-give and out-volunteer the opposition. Don’t believe me? Examine the facts."


    http://dailycaller.com/2010/09/23/surprise-conservatives-are-more-generous-than-liberals/
     
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    Wrong.

    Safety was your dodge. I just pointed out that your dodge wasn't going to work.

    I can be drug tested anytime and lose my job and my paycheck if I test positive. Why is it unfair for someone taking a free ride on the taxpayer to be tested to keep getting those checks?
     
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    Asked and answered. Find something that makes sense.
     
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    Because they aren't performing any particular task, never mind a task that requires safety. They are not employed, not a part of any organization, they're just trying to live their life. There is a presumption of guilt involved here.
     
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    The only presumption of guilt is directed at the millions of workers that can lose their jobs and their paychecks if they test positive for drugs.

    Why shouldn't welfare recipients be treated the same? If they are clean, the money keeps coming. If not, they lose their checks. Just like me and millions of other workers.
     
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    Looks to me like all states need to figure out how Arizona tested so many people for only $500. That's definitely not a waste of money.
     
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