Terror on the Strip! Sniper guns down concert goers ...

Fertilizer bomb. Pressure cooker bomb. It was outdoors, on the Strip, so see if I could high-speed ram a vehicle into the crowd.

Shucks, in that dense a crowd, grab a knife in each hand and slash everyone I got close to.

That dense a crowd, start shucking acid balls. I may not get too many with the acid, but the fumes will get at least twice as many as the acid.

And that's just giving it less than 5 minutes thought.

 

So, because you can't eliminate or limit Risk 1, Risk 2 or Risk 3, let's not bother trying with Risk 4, which we can limit, because some people might get upset about their 'human rights' to have a gun being no longer placed over the rights of others to life itself.

 

told you so.

HankD

 

I stand by my statement

 

I don't.

HankD

 

Fair enough

 

Your logic isn't logic, Matt. Everyone's a law-abiding citizen...until they're not. That's your logic.

So, because by your logic, anyone/everyone could commit an illegal act at any time, you want to take away their ability, as much as possible, to inflict harm. Your logic requires that we take away guns, knives, forks, pointy things, clubs, bats, balls, rocks, sticks, etc., etc.

What you've said, by your logic, is that people can only be trusted to behave poorly. They cannot be trusted to act responsibly. So take away the things--from everyone--that could be used to inflict harm, especially those things that could inflict large amounts of harm.

You don't see that you've been raised in a culture that has ingrained in you that you can trust the government to take care of and protect you. You can't relate to what Americans view as basic liberties and freedoms, because it's culturally foreign (alien) to you.

And because you don't see it as a freedom or liberty that would have to be given away, this argument could literally go on forever.

With that, I'm done.

 

OK This ping-pong debate might even have been entertaining if not about so dreadful a subject as mass murder.

HankD

 

Agreed at least on that

 

I get what your saying and agree with the never ending aspect to a point. I guess we are coming from two different starting points: I suppose on human nature that I come from - ironically perhaps! - if not the Calvinist total depravity standpoint then the belief that humans are by nature since the Fall deeply flawed and selfish and our natural tendency is towards evil. Therefore, whilst obviously the Gospel is the answer to that, unless and until.that changes hearts and minds I regard it as the task of civil government to restrain such tendencies as best it can. I guess you believe more in the intrinsic goodness and hence freedom (to choose to do right) more.

 

Washing has yet become corrupt enough for the armed citizenry do deem it necessary to "throw them off."

 

You're not sticking to the point.

Murder is never ok.

Last time I checked, bombs were illegal in the UK. When are guns going to be in the US?

 

Show me how arming them.would have stopped 7/7

 

So you believe that armed insurrection should overthrow democracy??!!!

 

You did. Own up:

Your words. Right there.