NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Revmitchell said:
Well, since you have corrected your original claim that Ron Paul supporters were breaking windows and throwing urine I guess we have it sorted now.
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Terrorism charges lodged against protesters at GOP convention
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Well, since you have corrected your original claim that Ron Paul supporters were breaking windows and throwing urine I guess we have it sorted now.
C4K said:
Do you read? I didnt correct anything.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Revmitchell said:
I give you way too much credit Rev.
You have not even told us that you anecdotally saw a single Ron Paul support commit an act of terror - the worst even you saw was them 'getting in the face of a Fox reporter.'
For doing that, all the supposed proof you have, you equated them with the KKK.
You have not given one speck of proof that a single Ron Paul supporter committed a single act of terror.
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What you did say is that "they were Ron Paul supporters"
What I can say to you is this I am a Ron Paul supporter and am not an anarchist.
I love this country and the Lord Jesus Christ,so do you retract your unfounded statement or not?
poncho
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Thank you for your assistance C4K but don't be to hard on the Rev he's a "nice guy" and means well. I suspect alot of people will fall for the same anti american/anti freedom propaganda and media conditioning as the good Rev.
There seems to be an effort on the part of the government and media to paint those who dissent against them and their policies as terrorists.
For example this FBI document shows that "lawful political protests" are being targeted and monitored by the Joint Terrorism Task Force as if they were a terrorist threat. This is the same federal agency who printed and handed out this pamphlet in Arizona , Texas and Virginia that is clearly meant to train police to connect domestic dissent with terrorism.
Take note that in the pamphlet "defenders" of the U.S. Constitution are to be considered a terrorist threat. Also note that in the VA training manual "property rights activists" are to be considered a terrorist threat.
What does a terrorist look and act like? According to the FBI and the JTTF. They look and act like normal everyday (nice guys) people. Like the good Rev maybe?
Terrorists are also known to be fond of reading almanacs.
The federal government is apparently up to it's old COINTELPRO tricks again spying on and infiltrating protest groups.
If the federal government can so easily plant East German Stazi type informants in protest groups it can just as easily plant agents provocateurs in those groups to cause trouble and create the pretext for the police to crack down on them and break some heads. In order to further intimidate (future) protest groups to limit and control if not end legal political demonstrations that are protected by the first amendment of the United States Constitution.
It's no secret anymore that the federal government considers the founders of the United States to have been terrorists as can be seen in this film of an FBI agent training other police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XC1fk_EO3c
Along with all this the government has also actively sought other ways to protect itself and it's policies from those who disagree and may dissent against it and it's policies.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955
So you see C4K it's not really the good Rev's fault, well not entirely that he (and others) may automatically connect Ron Paul supporters and others who attempt to use their constitutionally protected right to demonstrate against the government and it's policies with terrorists.
And as far my "parroting" anarchist beliefs... I believe it's just a matter of government propaganda and non stop media conditioning that have led many good people like the Rev to confuse limited constitutional government and individual liberty with anarchy.
I'm assuming that the good Rev along with many others here will simply discount all this evidence because they haven't seen it broadcast over and over and over on Faux Snews.
Faux Snews and the MSM isn't there to keep you informed...it's there to keep you conditioned and servile.
There seems to be an effort on the part of the government and media to paint those who dissent against them and their policies as terrorists.
For example this FBI document shows that "lawful political protests" are being targeted and monitored by the Joint Terrorism Task Force as if they were a terrorist threat. This is the same federal agency who printed and handed out this pamphlet in Arizona , Texas and Virginia that is clearly meant to train police to connect domestic dissent with terrorism.
Take note that in the pamphlet "defenders" of the U.S. Constitution are to be considered a terrorist threat. Also note that in the VA training manual "property rights activists" are to be considered a terrorist threat.
What does a terrorist look and act like? According to the FBI and the JTTF. They look and act like normal everyday (nice guys) people. Like the good Rev maybe?
Terrorists are also known to be fond of reading almanacs.
The federal government is apparently up to it's old COINTELPRO tricks again spying on and infiltrating protest groups.
If the federal government can so easily plant East German Stazi type informants in protest groups it can just as easily plant agents provocateurs in those groups to cause trouble and create the pretext for the police to crack down on them and break some heads. In order to further intimidate (future) protest groups to limit and control if not end legal political demonstrations that are protected by the first amendment of the United States Constitution.
It's no secret anymore that the federal government considers the founders of the United States to have been terrorists as can be seen in this film of an FBI agent training other police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XC1fk_EO3c
Along with all this the government has also actively sought other ways to protect itself and it's policies from those who disagree and may dissent against it and it's policies.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955
So you see C4K it's not really the good Rev's fault, well not entirely that he (and others) may automatically connect Ron Paul supporters and others who attempt to use their constitutionally protected right to demonstrate against the government and it's policies with terrorists.
And as far my "parroting" anarchist beliefs... I believe it's just a matter of government propaganda and non stop media conditioning that have led many good people like the Rev to confuse limited constitutional government and individual liberty with anarchy.
I'm assuming that the good Rev along with many others here will simply discount all this evidence because they haven't seen it broadcast over and over and over on Faux Snews.
Faux Snews and the MSM isn't there to keep you informed...it's there to keep you conditioned and servile.
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Confession of an RNC security guard
Confessions of an RNC security guard
From sushi-scarfing Secret Servicemen to drunken Sarah-Palin lust, witness the underside of the Republican shindig.
By Avi Steinberg
Read more: Republican Party, John McCain, Opinion, Republican National Convention, 2008 election, Sarah Palin, Avi Steinberg
Damon Winter/The New York Times/Redux
Local law enforcement officials watch McCain campaign director Rick Davis on a giant screen at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minn., on Aug. 31, 2008.
Sept. 6, 2008 | ST. PAUL, Minn. -- Gathered in the basement of an office building in a tough section of St. Paul, less than two weeks before the gavel drops downtown at the Republican National Convention, roughly 30 recruits hired by a private security company sit through 12 hours of lectures. I am one of these officers-in-training.
The group is a mix of moonlighting prison guards and cops, infantrymen and Marines between tours of duty in Iraq, immigrants, assorted freelance goons and young career seekers. There is also a crisp-looking airman and an outspoken right-wing ideologue, who never fails to demonstrate his remarkable talent for transforming any conversation, even one about the weather, into a discussion about the Mossad.
The RNC, I am told, is a training ground for these recruits. Those who perform well during the grueling 12-hour shifts before, during and after the convention will be considered for permanent jobs at the security firm.
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The instructor is Charles T. Thibodeau, or Chuck, a rotund and self-effacing 65-year-old security consultant bedecked in gold jewelry. Thibodeau leans back, cracks open a can of Rockstar Energy Drink and extols the virtues of non-heroism. He has taken painkillers all week to cope with a recent operation to remove varicose veins and is in something of a confessional mood; having been raised by a town drunk (one of his confessions) he isn't much of a romantic to begin with.
"I'll be the first to admit it," he says, crossing his arms. "I don't fight fair. I fight to win. If you got to take someone out -- sorry, I mean, 'reposition them to the ground' -- you go in with help. Under no circumstances do you go toe-to-toe. You gotta get some beefcake in there. I myself prefer to go in with four to five people. Last thing I want is a level playing field."
"What if you're alone and the guy is coming for you?" asks one of the recruits.
Thibodeau doesn't miss a beat.
"You run."
"I know what some of you tough guys are thinking," says Thibodeau, draining his Rockstar. "But trust me, unless you've got no escape route and are being seriously threatened, and can prove that in court by crying on the stand, you had better retreat. You either run or you cry. Your choice."
A recruit sitting in the back of the room begins to fidget and sink into his chair. He wears a T-shirt in the ubiquitous purple and yellow of Minnesota Vikings football. The shirt reads "What Would Leif Erikson Do?"
I, however, stay until the bitter end and await my assignment. The following is a log of a night in my life as an RNC security officer. The night shift is 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.
So it was not all Minneapolis/St. Paul Police but hired goons of the RNC who took the club them first and ask questions later approach, am I surprised
(warning salty language but reality of what happens in this diary of an RNC security man)
<salty language link deleted - LE>
Confessions of an RNC security guard
From sushi-scarfing Secret Servicemen to drunken Sarah-Palin lust, witness the underside of the Republican shindig.
By Avi Steinberg
Read more: Republican Party, John McCain, Opinion, Republican National Convention, 2008 election, Sarah Palin, Avi Steinberg
Damon Winter/The New York Times/Redux
Local law enforcement officials watch McCain campaign director Rick Davis on a giant screen at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minn., on Aug. 31, 2008.
Sept. 6, 2008 | ST. PAUL, Minn. -- Gathered in the basement of an office building in a tough section of St. Paul, less than two weeks before the gavel drops downtown at the Republican National Convention, roughly 30 recruits hired by a private security company sit through 12 hours of lectures. I am one of these officers-in-training.
The group is a mix of moonlighting prison guards and cops, infantrymen and Marines between tours of duty in Iraq, immigrants, assorted freelance goons and young career seekers. There is also a crisp-looking airman and an outspoken right-wing ideologue, who never fails to demonstrate his remarkable talent for transforming any conversation, even one about the weather, into a discussion about the Mossad.
The RNC, I am told, is a training ground for these recruits. Those who perform well during the grueling 12-hour shifts before, during and after the convention will be considered for permanent jobs at the security firm.
Share this story on Facebook:
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Thanks for your support.
The instructor is Charles T. Thibodeau, or Chuck, a rotund and self-effacing 65-year-old security consultant bedecked in gold jewelry. Thibodeau leans back, cracks open a can of Rockstar Energy Drink and extols the virtues of non-heroism. He has taken painkillers all week to cope with a recent operation to remove varicose veins and is in something of a confessional mood; having been raised by a town drunk (one of his confessions) he isn't much of a romantic to begin with.
"I'll be the first to admit it," he says, crossing his arms. "I don't fight fair. I fight to win. If you got to take someone out -- sorry, I mean, 'reposition them to the ground' -- you go in with help. Under no circumstances do you go toe-to-toe. You gotta get some beefcake in there. I myself prefer to go in with four to five people. Last thing I want is a level playing field."
"What if you're alone and the guy is coming for you?" asks one of the recruits.
Thibodeau doesn't miss a beat.
"You run."
"I know what some of you tough guys are thinking," says Thibodeau, draining his Rockstar. "But trust me, unless you've got no escape route and are being seriously threatened, and can prove that in court by crying on the stand, you had better retreat. You either run or you cry. Your choice."
A recruit sitting in the back of the room begins to fidget and sink into his chair. He wears a T-shirt in the ubiquitous purple and yellow of Minnesota Vikings football. The shirt reads "What Would Leif Erikson Do?"
I, however, stay until the bitter end and await my assignment. The following is a log of a night in my life as an RNC security officer. The night shift is 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.
So it was not all Minneapolis/St. Paul Police but hired goons of the RNC who took the club them first and ask questions later approach, am I surprised
(warning salty language but reality of what happens in this diary of an RNC security man)
<salty language link deleted - LE>
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It's it up not the police if a person gets charged and what that charge is? All focus on the family did was call police when there was a disturbance, as we are supose to be able to do. It doesn't matter if they were christians, christians should know better.
Seems certain topic are choosen for the 3 page limit and closed, because there are threads in this forum that go for 5 or 6 pages, no threat of closing them.
Seems certain topic are choosen for the 3 page limit and closed, because there are threads in this forum that go for 5 or 6 pages, no threat of closing them.
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