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Terrorist Sent to His Reward

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Robert Snow

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No one can claim that this person didn't deserve the death penalty. I'm glad that justice has finally been accomplished!
 
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saturneptune

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I agree with all the above posts with one exception, because I have not followed the case the last ten years. Do we know or does anyone have any idea if this man came to salvation since his crimes? He got what he deserved, for sure, but I am wondering if anyone knows if there was any suggestion of a conversion in the last ten years. I would rejoice if there was. The bottom line is even if there is evidence, we do not know for sure.
 
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saturneptune

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I agree with all the above posts with one exception, because I have not followed the case the last ten years. Do we know or does anyone have any idea if this man came to salvation since his crimes? He got what he deserved, for sure, but I am wondering if anyone knows if there was any suggestion of a conversion in the last ten years. I would rejoice if there was. The bottom line is even if there is evidence of conversion, we do not know for sure. There are lots of death row conversions.
 
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sag38

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I'm just glad that I didn't get what I deserve from God. I'm not going to judge the man's worthiness for hell fire as I'm just as worthy except for grace. However, his earthly punishment fit the crime. They need to use this punishment much more often.
 
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saturneptune said:
I agree with all the above posts with one exception, because I have not followed the case the last ten years. Do we know or does anyone have any idea if this man came to salvation since his crimes? He got what he deserved, for sure, but I am wondering if anyone knows if there was any suggestion of a conversion in the last ten years. I would rejoice if there was. The bottom line is even if there is evidence of conversion, we do not know for sure. There are lots of death row conversions.
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For the last 10 years? The sniper shootings in D.C. took place in October of 2002, only 7 years ago. I remember it well - I was afraid at gas stations to stand outside to pump gas and waited in my car. I would do several errands at one time instead of going out at different times on different days. The sniper shootings were terrifying because you never knew if the shooter(s) were around the corner. They shot most people in the daytime or early evening at places like shopping malls, bus stops, front yards, the parking lot of a Home Depot near me, etc.. They even cancelled outside activities for children and others during that time.

No, I am pretty sure he did not convert. The Post articles said he asked for no spiritual advisors before the execution, and he did not make any final statements. He never acknowledged his guilt, expressed remorse or asked for forgiveness. Instead, he claimed he was framed by the FBI and CIA. He had given himself over to evil, imo.

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J. Wyndal Gordon, one of Muhammad's attorneys, described his client in his final hours as fearless and still insisting he was innocent.
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Robert Snow

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Although I agree, I believe that the death penalty is meant to be punishment, not a deterrent.
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I don't care if it deterred anyone else or not, it deterred this wicked man from doing it again. Anyone who will do the evil things this man does to society needs to be punished by society. It establishes justice!
 
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I fully support the death penalty when appropriate. I do believe it needs to be handled with meekness and fear. We are not any less capable of doing what he did. We all suffer from the same depth of depravity.
 
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Although I agree, I believe that the death penalty is meant to be punishment, not a deterrent.
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I agree with you. I just think that if criminals actually saw that we were serious about punishing crime, they would think twice before attempting it, because they would know what would happen to them when caught. It seems like nowadays lots of killers DON'T get executed, but instead get many years in prison with three squares a day, access to free medical care, etc. which is probably better than what they had before they did the crime.
 
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Sadly criminals like these show no remorse nor no pity.
And that is a shame. But also families of these victims can and will get closure over this I pray. Thoug sady it won't at all, restore loved ones back to them.
 
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Marcia

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abcgrad94 said:
I agree with you. I just think that if criminals actually saw that we were serious about punishing crime, they would think twice before attempting it, because they would know what would happen to them when caught. It seems like nowadays lots of killers DON'T get executed, but instead get many years in prison with three squares a day, access to free medical care, etc. which is probably better than what they had before they did the crime.
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I was a paralegal in the Criminal Division of the state attorney general's office for several years. One of my jobs was reading and summarizing the facts of the trial transcripts of capital cases (at first, rape and murder convictions but that changed to only murder after the Supreme Court ruled against rape as a capital case). Criminals don't usually think before they act, and, more importantly, they don't think they will get caught. Although I tend to support the death penalty, I do not think it is a deterrent, nor can it be.

Those who mean to murder or plan murder ahead of time are usually very confident and arrogant and think they will get away with it.
 
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PastorGreg

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Although I agree, I believe that the death penalty is meant to be punishment, not a deterrent.
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I think it's both.
Ec 8:11 "Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."
 
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Marcia said:
Those who mean to murder or plan murder ahead of time are usually very confident and arrogant and think they will get away with it.
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Interesting. I wonder if they think they will get away with it because so many others have?

I've heard that in the middle east, the penalty for stealing is the loss of a hand. When my brother was on tour in Iraq, he said the shopkeepers lay out their wares, even gold jewelry out in the open, and rarely is there shoplifting. I know that stealing is different from murder, but it seems that over there, people know they will be punished so they DO think twice before stealing.
 
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rbell

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This guy was defiant to the end (the moment of execution). No remorse, and he claimed innocence.

I think it's a pretty sure thing where he ended up...and there ain't 72 virgins waiting there for him.
 
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SBCPreacher

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SBCPreacher said:
Although I agree, I believe that the death penalty is meant to be punishment, not a deterrent.
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If I may add... It CAN be a deterrent, but I don't believe that's the main purpose for it.

Now, if we were to do public hangings or public firing squads, I think that would produce a higher deterrent effect. But that wouldn't be very nice now, would it?
 
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Marcia

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Interesting. I wonder if they think they will get away with it because so many others have?
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No, I don't think that's it. They don't think about the consequences; that's the whole point, either due to arrogance or stupidity or both. I've read the transcripts. You wouldn't believe some of the accounts. Many of these murderers end up telling their friends what they did. They honestly think they will get away with it.
 
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