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Featured Texas Gov. Perry indicted for coercion

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Jedi Knight, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    You're right. The prosecutor. Appointed by the judge.


    I think the dems might have had a better chance trying to override the veto ?
     
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    I agree with you--this is just Democrats trying to jam the courts as they did in Alaska.

    I cannot feel sorry for a lawyer who broke the law. She was guilty of P.I.--I suppose that she is going to say that that was political, too.

    Here in Indiana, we have a small state agency to monitor lawyers, judges, and law students who have problems with alcohol or drugs or mental illness. It is estimated that a large percentage of lawyers have such problems but only a few are weeded out.
     
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    You have to practice to be able to drink to a .238, and still be able to talk. That don't come overnight. Most people would be face down.

    And the investigation into Perry's "favors" will no doubt be on hold, and I'm way more interested to know what was going on there.
     
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    Just a few FACTS from somebody who actually LIVES in Texas.

    Yes, there are liberals in Texas. Travis County, where our capital, Austin, is located, is called the "blue berry" of Texas. It is completely liberal.

    The DA who presented the "information" to the grand jury was a protege of the drunken DA who was arrested for drunk driving, then resisted processing and assaulted the police officers who were trying to book her.

    In case you missed it, being drunk in public is one of the three causes for a DA to be removed from office in Texas. This woman purchased and consumed more than 23 gallons of vodka in a 15-month period. She is an alcoholic who is said to have been "half in the bag" while in her office trying to fulfill the duties of her office. "The Texas Local Government Code, in Chapter 87, allows public officials like district attorneys to be removed from office for "incompetency, official misconduct, habitual drunkenness, or other causes defined by law." The 1987 revision to the law added a single incidence of intoxication on or off duty as a potential cause for removal."

    And lastly, anyone with any knowledge at all of our grand jury system is aware of the old saying, "A DA can indict a ham sandwich."

    Lehmberg’s refusal to resign and maintaining his position that someone who had committed her offenses was not fit for office, either as the district attorney or as head of the Public Integrity Unit, Perry announced plans to veto funding for the Public Integrity Unit (which Lehmberg heads up) unless Lehmberg resigned. Texas law clearly grants the governor the power to veto funding for the Public Integrity Unit. The indictment is, therefore, fake.

    The fake indictment is political pay back for Perry following Texas LAW and calling for the alcoholic DA's resignation. If she does not resign she will be removed from office pursuant to The Local Government Code, Title 3, Subtitle B, Chapter 87.

    In the meantime, Lehmberg is facing a new set of legal troubles, as an ethics complaint was filed against her last week, accusing her of failing to properly report on her campaign finance reports the source of the more than $227,000 in attorneys fees she paid to her defense counsel. Can you say "money laundering?"

    This isn't about left verses right or Republican verses Democrat. This is about an alcoholic who drives drunk and endangers everyone in the community. One whose judgement is so bad that she drives drunk certainly lacks the good judgement necessary to be the top Law Enforcement Officer of Travis County, and as director of the Public Integrity Unit has demonstrated a remarkable lack of integrity.
     
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    No. DAs are elected in Texas. The only time a DA is appointed is if the incumbent is removed or dies in office.

    And the DAs drunk driving conviction was in 2013 but the indictment of Perry was handed down yesterday (Friday, 8/15). :)
     
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    Thanx. Like I said, they'll probably milk it for what they can, then drop the charges.
     
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    Texas Local Government Code, Title 3, Subtitle B, Chapter 87. :)
     
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    Yes, I subsequently saw this in one of the articles linked to in Use of Time's article. So why wasn't this method invoked?
     
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    He isn't being indicted for using his veto though. He has that right. It's the fact that he was publicly threatening to use his political power to veto to coerce her to resign. I don't think anybody under the sun can defend her actions and she easily comes across as a pretty reprehensible person. I don't know if the indictment is going to amount to anything serious for Perry I'm just telling you the basis on which it was formed.
     
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    Exactly my question. I'm not a lawyer but I am legitimately curious why he took the route he did because it seems to me on the surface that he could have gotten rid of her without risking his Presidential aspirations. Thats why I'm inclined to say his motives were not criminal just unaware of policy.
     
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    They did. In Texas it is a civil procedure. She won the law suit. Her influence over the selection and election of judges is reprehensible. The first thing the plaintiff should have done was ask for a change of venue.
     
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    Thanks. That's been a question I've had since last night. Good to know.
     
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    I agree with you. No one says Perry does not have the right to use his veto on legislation. However, to say I will veto the legislation if so-and-so does not resign is at the least unethical and at worst illegal.

    Can you imagine the uproar from the GOP if Obama threatened to veto legislation unless a Tea Party member resigned from Congress?
     
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    I didn't know he had been tried yet. He'll finish his term.

    A truism is that anyone can be indicted for anything in Texas. Austin is the most liberal city in Texas, overwhelming democrat. They've been after Perry for a long time.

    I wonder what the drunk woman is doing now?
     
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    That's not a concern at all. A lot of people aspire to be president.

    He was never going to get the nomination from the republican party to run for president.
     
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    Not a bad summary.

    That's kind of laughable, but not a bad summary.
     
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    District attorneys in Texas are elected. The governor has no power of appointment, even for a district attorney that resigns or is recalled by the people who elected them.

    What he wanted to do was move the office of Public Integrity out from under the control of the Travis County District Attorney so that the governor could appoint someone to fill that office.

    Democrats have long used that position in extremely liberal Travis County, Texas to harrass Texas Republicans while giving pretty much a free ride to democrats.

    In this case, this woman, if she had an ounce of integrity herself, would have resigned.

    Perry simply vetoed state funding for the public integrity unit she ran. Well within his authority. It would have had no effect on the elected office she held as district attorney.

    As usual , democrats in Travis County, like everywhere else, will re-elect her to the office of district attorney. They always take care of their lawbreakers and crooks. Integrity to democrats everywhere is a weapon to be used against public opponents, not something they are interested in enforcing in their own party.
     
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    It is not the veto that got him into trouble. It was his coercion, the threatening of her ... though I feel she should resign ... that got him into trouble. To me the veto is a mute point, that is not where the problem lies.

    Frankly I think both should resign from office. I have thought for some time now that Perry is power crazed and not to be trusted.
     
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    Funny how the righties scream overreach of power when it's a Democratic officeholder, but if one of their boys does it, look at all the justification going on. Perry is a self-pious version of Chris Christie, only with a cowboy hat. As they say in the Lone Star State, he is "all hat, no cattle".
     
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    No different than the president threatening to veto legislation if he doesn't get what he wants. That's the way the system works.

    They have no case.
     
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