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Featured Texas Gov. Perry indicted for coercion

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Jedi Knight, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    There is a big difference. No president, including Obama, has said that if such and such a congressman/woman does not resign I will veto this bill. What would you say if Obama threatened a veto if a Tea Party congressman/woman did not resign from Congress?

    Perry has every right to veto a bill. He does not have the legal right to intimidate government employees jobs to that veto. That is where he stepped over the line.

    If he wanted her out of office I am sure there are Texas state procedures to do so and he should have followed them.
     
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    No case at all. It'll be laughed out of court.
     
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    Yea even Axelrod thinks it is spurious.
     
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    TCassidy, thanks for the excellent post!

    Now here in Indiana we have a very small agency called the Indiana Judges and Lawyers Assistance Program (JLAP), which has the power to disbar lawyers with alcohol, drug, or mental illness problems unless the offender cooperates with a treatment program and stays clean.

    Does Texas have something like that? I would think that they did. This woman should be disbarred for alcoholism in my opinion.
     
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    I think that what you are advocating is what Alan Dershowitz calls un-American:

    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/der...-outraged/2014/08/16/id/589179/#ixzz3AcMRKX5F

    Dershowitz is a liberal Democrat and no favorite of the GOP.
     
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    Lets suppose Tea Party Member Congresswoman Crabtowngirl, was the major Sponsor of a Bi-Partism bill on taxes. Well, Congresswoman Crabtowngirls is driving DWI on the way to the House for an important vote. On the way, while DWI, she hits and kills another driver. President Obama then demands her resignation from Congress, or he will veto the bill. She refuses.
    I think in this case, I would agree with Obama.

    NOTE: under Article I, Section 6, A Congressman cannot be arrested while going to a House Session.



    You do have to admit that he is being very transparent in this issues.


    Didn't some Federal elected official say something about being transparent?
     
  7. church mouse guy

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    Salty, if Dershowitz thinks what's going on in Texas is un-American, it's un-American.

    Apparently this woman in Texas is a terrible alcoholic and the public called the police on her because she was weaving in and out of a bike lane. She had an open bottle of vodka in the car with her. What a Democrat doll!
     
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    The actual facts are even worse. She drove drunk, interfered with police operations, and assaulted a police officer.

    The drunk was sued to remove her from office, but won the suit due to her huge influence over the election of judges in Travis county.

    She was also head of the Public Integrity Unit and was asked to resign because her actions showed she had no professional integrity.

    What is ironic is that the main function of the Public Integrity Unit is to, yep, you guessed it, investigate fraud regarding state liquor licenses.

    Can you imagine the conflict of interest of an alcoholic who bought more than 23 GALLONS of vodka over a 15 month period (and that was from only ONE liquor store using a credit card. We don't know how much MORE she bought at other liquor stores or by paying cash) being the one to head up investigates of liquor stores?

    This whole thing is nonsense. Utter stupid Democrat nonsense. The Democrats hate Perry because he has led the state of Texas in job growth (half of all job growth in the US was in Texas in the past 5 years), energy independence, and Texas has consistently been ranked as one of the best places to do business in the nation under Gov. Perry’s leadership. As the national and global economies struggle to recover from their financial woes, Texas is displaying strength that is built on intelligent, consistent fiscal discipline. His policies overcame the budget shortfall, reduced spending, and cut business taxes bring many more businesses to Texas thus INCREASING business tax revenue.

    Perry was a US Air Force pilot with the rank of Captain, flying C-130 heavy lift jets. He has a proven track record in Texas. He was born in Texas, graduated from Texas A&M University, was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1984, where he was one of the "Pit Bulls" who pushed for austere state budgets during the 1980s to the point that The Dallas Morning News named him one of the ten most effective members of the legislature.

    Perry was elected Agriculture Commissioner (a very powerful office in Texas) in 1990 and worked to clean up the corruption of the former leadership.

    And, of course, in 1998 he was elected Lt. Governor and assumed office as Governor when George W. Bush resigned to become President.

    Perry has been re-elected by substantial margins ever since. He is the longest serving Governor the state of Texas has ever had. And could easily be re-elected this year, but he chose not to run again.

    And that popularity with the people of Texas, and his incredibly effective leadership, is why the Democrats hate him so much!
     
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    Yes, the Texas Local Government Code provides for the removal, but that, in Texas, is not done by a committee or board. It is a civil action that must be fought in court. And, of course, such judges in Texas are elected and only those who are political cronies of the DA will be elected so no judge will every sustain a charge against a sitting DA. Disbarment is a function of the Office of the General Counsel of the State Bar of Texas which must recommend a disbarment hearing then the State Bar of Texas will hear the complaint and either sustain the complaint and issue punishment up to and including disbarment or will issue a "no bill" indicating the complaint is unfounded. But again, political cronyism runs rampant in Texas so such a disbarment in a case like this is rare.
     
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    Especially in the legal system. Amongst judges and lawyers.
     
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    Once again you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the issue. The Public Integrity Unit is a function ONLY of Travis County. So, if it is a county function, why should the state pay for it?

    If the state pays for it, it should be under the direction and administration of the Texas Attorney General.

    An amendment to the funding bill was offered that does exactly that, but was voted down by RINO Republicans voting with the Democrats in order to get support for pork projects in their own districts.

    If the state pays for it, the state runs it.

    If the county wants to run it, the county can pay for it.

    You can't have it both ways!
     
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    I fully agree! Part of the problem is that the Feds or State/Commonwealth require something, but informs the State/Commonwealth or local govt they must pay for it.
     
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    Well, we are luckier in Indiana because of our smallness. The Indiana Judges and Lawyers Assistance Program (JLAP) has a Director appointed by the Governor. However, the current Director has served for many years for Governors of both parties. The Director is a lawyer and has expertise in mental illness and substance abuse. The other employees are counselors in addiction and mental illness. A lawyer, judge, or law student must comply with the course of treatment or face disbarment. The treatment is not done by JLAP but by private facilities.

    I think that Texas needs to look into an administrative agency to weed out the mentally ill and addicts in the Texas legal and judicial system.
     
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    I seem to have misspoken. Some of the top legal minds are saying he didn't do wrong, that it wasn't an abuse of power.
     
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    I guess if convicted, he may get to make a few new friends in Huntsville.
     
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    In addition to calling this un-American, liberal Democrat Dershowitz is also calling it totalitarian and what happened in the Soviet Union.

    Dershowitz realizes that Democrats serving the White House would be arrested for criminal activity in 2016. He is trying to save the Democrats from themselves. It is amusing to hear him bandy the term un-American about as he probably is an Obama Democrat and a Saul Alinsky fan.
     
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