Before the thread killer posts again and this must be closed....
I wanted to thank RM.....for being objective and exposing the clear agenda.
You are seeking to be objective and speak out as you see it:wavey:
Some by their disturbed posting have closed out more than mariano rivera:thumbs:
Thanks for being objective
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Iconoclast, Nov 3, 2013.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Please show where I questioned anyone's salvation, you can't do it.
I pointed out the errors of Calvinism, that is not the same thing whatsoever. -
Perhaps considering the eye problems in the Bible would be more helpful. -
I do not make empty statements like many, I almost always provide scripture to support my view. Almost never does anyone ever address the scripture I show and show how my interpretation might be wrong.
I have received an infraction for questioning someone's salvation, when I did no such thing. If I did, please show it. -
Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Your views are outside of orthodox.You have been offered correction...you refuse the correction.You are becoming a caricature of yourself!!!! -
I have found if I really expose the serious errors of Calvinism I am immediately shut down. Many here are terrified of the truth.
In the meantime, you call my views, warped, bitter, and rotten to the bones.
That's OK, I expect people to attack me when I expose error. :thumbs: -
Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
No double speak, no dismissing the knowledge offered, no novelities like you post.You invent things that are so foolish they refute themselves...
RM only agrees on 2-3 pts...of the 5...but even he was repulsed by your foul postings...:wavey::wavey: -
And you were a total hypocrite in that thread you showed, you strongly criticized and ridiculed me because I do not know Greek or Hebrew, when you do not know Greek or Hebrew either!
That is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.
And unlike anyone here, I showed EVIDENCE, I quoted you verbatim where you yourself directly said you do not know Greek or Hebrew, and I gave a link to the post where you said that.
Now, show where I questioned someone's salvation in the thread that was closed, you can't do it. -
Here are the facts:
Winman has claimed word for word Calvinist do NOT believe the Bible. There has also been the claim (from him, & others, one a mod) that we have a works based salvation. This goes on without a hitch.
And we all know what these accusations mean so let's not pretend.
I've always found it intriguing that those from THAT camp can get by with many egregious accusations with out an infraction or snip. The leader of the pack says to report it. They've been reported and are hardly EVER snipped. Somehow I get taunted about this fact concerning nothing is done about it. :)
However, the slightest HINT of anything personal is met with intimidation and threats if the OTHER camp sees it directed toward them (him really) although the opposing camp uses the same tactics they accuse and in the same immediate context to which I speak. The tribe rush in to support.
All in a days work on BB.
I will say this -- I don't care if any of these want to call my salvation into question, or 'taunt' me about the fact reports toward their camp go unchecked. I'm secure due to Him and don't care about that as much, just saying. Other than that I DO care only because it is against the BB rules and has been allowed long enough from that camp towards mine and reporting hasn't done one thing. -
You've not done this to date.
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http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2047066&postcount=54
And here is another post of yours from 2010 where you directly say you do not know Greek and Hebrew;
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1613184&postcount=19
This is the height of hypocrisy, and I have presented EVIDENCE to support your statements. (Unlike you) -
I never ridiculed you for not knowing Greek, that is not at all what it was about. It's sad that is what you actually THINK it was about. Guess what? It wasn't.
As I also said, you'll never see it, and that is even more sad than the rest. At least Icon knows what I am saying, and I have nothing but respect for him and my other brothers on here. -
Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
If i said I knew greek,and do not, that would be a lie.....I said what i said..read it again...try to understand
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
He does not want truth...only contention:thumbs: -
I am not stupid, if you could show it, you would have by now. So, the charge by RevMitchell that I questioned someone's salvation is completely BOGUS.
This is not questioning your salvation, this is questioning the doctrine of Calvinism.
1 Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Calvinists that believe in Limited Atonement do not believe this, they believe Jesus only died for some men, only for the elect. That is not what Paul preached.
Paul did not know who was elect when he first preached the gospel to the Corinthians, yet he told every single person there that Jesus died for OUR SINS.
Again, this is pointing out what I believe are serious errors in Calvinism, but I am not questioning anyone's salvation.
A person could be saved and yet believe this error. Probably all Christians hold to some error here or there. I am not immune to this. -
Here is what you said, referring to my answer to Biblicist;
Again, I show EVIDENCE, you do not. -
Not sure why making an observation about the way a system of theology works - is construed as saying that so-and-so is not really saved.
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But even if Archangel knows Greek, that doesn't prove he is always correct. Greek scholars have disagreed over Greek texts for centuries. I gave a link for just such a discussion that shows Greek scholars disagreeing. I will show it again.
http://chafer.nextmeta.com/files/v12n2_4is_faith_a_gift_from_god_according.pdf
A very good article, you really should give it a read. :thumbs: -
Not one person has come back and showed where I questioned anyone's salvation, BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO THAT.
The person who made a false accusation is the one that should have received an infraction, not me. -
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