Featured The Abomination Of Desolation

No, it did NOT come to pass then. It was a long time before people in Australia, the Americas, etc.heard the Gospel.

 

The mystery of lawlessness was at work as soon as Jesus began His ministry. The first antichrists likely began on hat very day. And there's been false prophets since the first generations of men. And the Roman govt. would be a PROMOTER of antichrist, not a restrainer.

It was JESUS who said "Let the reader understand", Look in any legitimate Bible version.

OK, then, please show it to us from history. Hint: it was NOT the Roman army surrounding Jerusalem.

 

Another thing, Sir- We've been looking mostly at Daniel, Matt. 24, 2 Thess. 2, & Rev. 13. Now try this one for size:

Rev. 8:7 The first angel sounded: And hail and fire followed, mingled with blood, and they were thrown to the earth. And a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up.
Now, please show us from history when this occurred.

 

He meant the whole inhabited world. He died for the Japanese as well as the Jews. And "the end" hasn't yet come, of course.

 

No, it makes no sense at all.Claudius' only action against Christians & Jews in general was to expel those he considered troublemakers from the city of Rome.(Collier's Encyclopedia) And since the beast hasn't yet come, the restrainer is still restraining.

That's NOT what Jesus said. But, saying you were right, the reader understands from Daniel and history what the first type of the AOD was & what the coming one will be, as set forth in 2 Thess:2:4-5 & Rev. 13.

That event was not, nor did it cause, the AOD. The AOD hasn't occurred yet.

That's not what the Revelator showed John. But you deny His words by saying it'll never happen!

As I said, you believe Gentry over JESUS! You need to stop that apostasy at once!

 

Right! "The end" has certainly not yet come!

 

Jesus ushered in the New Covenant at the
"Last Supper". He sealed it with His death. "The end" will be the end of this "age".

The Romans stood by if the Jews executed someone for "heresy" by stoning, or simply sticking a sword into them. Crucifixions, decapitations, death by archery or javelin squad was done only by the Romans, after a Roman trial. Remember, to have the Romans crucify Jesus, the Jews accused Him of claiming to be their king, while the Jews claimed to have no king but Caesar.

I read all the verses you cited carefully, & NOT ONE of them says anything about Roman authority! The authority mentioned is either the Sanhedrin or the priesthood.

And for the umpteenth time, I have posted **PROOF** that Nero was NOT the beast! Why do you persist in that LIE from Gentry's garbage after it's been PROVEN to be a lie?

For the sake of discussion, I'll pretend you're right that Jesus was referring to Daniel. So, what DID Danny write?
Daniel 9:26“And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Notice he didn't say the PRINCE would be the destroyer; it would be his PEOPLE. And the PLURAL desolations were of the city & the temple.

Jesus knew His words would be written, & that He would preserve them for ever. That's why He mentioned the reader to His disciples.

But it's very, VERY obvious that it has NOT yet happened!

 

Lodic, how can you (or any other preterist) expect me to take you seriously when you keep repeating a lie-that Nero was the beast-gleaned from Dr. Gentry's stuff? I have posted FACTS, framed by SCRIPTURE, that **PROVE** Nero was NOT the beast?

Once more, here's a quick repeat of those facts:

Daniel 7 says a king shall arise from among 10 kings that are over some of the peoples that made up the Roman empire(after it was ended) and shall subdue 3 of them. The others shall willingly give this one king their power & authority, becoming his vassals. Certainly, this didn't happen with Nero. He was APPOINTED to Caesarship by his uncle Claudius Caesar, & confirmed by the Senate. He hadn't even aspired to become Caesar, & spent most of his time in acting, playing music, & engaging in all sorts of sexual debauchery, rather than governing. (No, he didn't fiddle while Rome burned; he joined a bucket brigade!) But he did NOT overthrow any other rulers.

Scripture says the beast will not recognize any other god but himself, but for at least a while, he will worship(or pretend to worship) a "god of fortresses", & also "a god which his fathers did not know" & every fortress he attacks will fall to him. It was well-known that Nero worshipped the usual Roman pantheon of gods/goddesses.

In 2 Thess.2:4-5, Paul wrote that the beast/man of sin will enter the temple(meaning the temple in Jerusalem) and declare himself God, NERO NEVER DID EITHER ONE! He was never in Jerusalem in his life!

The clincher: Scripture PLAINLY says that the beast & the false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire. History plainly shows that Nero DIED. A band of at least 7 men had been sent by Gen. Galba to arrest him. When they found him dying from a sword stab, they tried to save his life, but failed. They, plus Epaphroditus, the scribe whom Nero commanded to stab him, all saw his death. (NOT the same Epaphroditus mentioned by Paul in Philippians)

There's no symbolizing those plain words of Scripture: Rev. 19: 20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Remember, the TRUE beast MUST meet EVERY Scriptural criterion written about him, TO THE LETTER, without the smallest detail left out! Nero didn't even come CLOSE! there are other things which the true beast will do, bit thse are the major ones. Only ONE is needed to prove Nero wasn't the beast!

 

1 Cor. 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
So you see the NC was introduced by Jesus at the "Last Supper" & sealed with Jesus' death.

Why, I HAVE, TOO so proven ! ! I p[osted a list of things attributed to the true beast that Nero didn't do or undergo. The MOST-TELLING is that he was NOT cast alive into hell, His death is a historical fact! The TRUE beast will be cast alive into hell AT JESUS' RETURN! As Jesus did NOT return in Nero's time, he could NOT have been the beast! Please get that garbage outta your head !

But it was NOT the AOD.

OK, say you're right about that. We understand Danny's prophecy about the AOD to have been fulfilled the 1st time by Antiochus Epiphanes & his statue of Zeus in the temple. So, according to Jesus' words, we are to watch for a similar event to fulfill Jesus' words. And that event did NOT occur before the temple was destroyed. Remember, Danny said it eould be PLACED & SET UP, & no such thing happened in the old temple.

YOU do exactly what you say I do. You say "the whole world" doesn't mean "the whole world". You say "It's already happened" & then try to shoehorn some other event into Scripture to show fulfillment. THAT HIPPO WON'T FLY!

You've proven that you know history quite well. If only you could apply the same skill and knowledge to interpreting Scripture.


Agreed. I'm not sure about the exact details, but that doesn't make the Preterist view false. [/quote]
Yes, it DOES. It OBVIOUSLY didn't happen to Nero!

Then you must believe Gentry over JESUS.

I've posted a great many shadows & doubts you refuse to accept, but can't disprove. And you don't "know" Nero was the beast; you're just GUESSING because your guru Gentry said he was, despite the words of JESUS proving he WASN'T.

No, you spread false teachings by taking Gentry & others like him at their word without checking it out for yourself.

Rev. 8:8 Then the second angel sounded: And something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood. 9 And a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
Cn you tell us from history when THIS happened?